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Windows 11½

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  1. drnick1 · · focus · HN ↗
    It must be hard for Windows users to imagine that on Linux there are is no activation, no Microsoft account, no cloud backup, and no pop-up requesting that you install crapware when you plug in a peripheral.[0] You also own your disk encryption keys and are not assigned an identifier that can be used against you.[1]

    [0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=6IFVTcM28KA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=6IFVTcM28KA

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pcmag.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;a-hackers-arrest-reveals-microsoft-can-track-users-via-a-windows-device" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pcmag.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;a-hackers-arrest-reveals-microsof...

    1. somerandomqaguy · · focus · HN ↗
      ......? Windows 95 to Vista all had similar installation workflows to Linux sans an extra step to enter the install key. 7 and 10 made it easier since the hardware ID would make having to enter the key manually on hardware unnecessary. Until 11, there was no need for MS account, cloud, etc.

      If anything Linux gave me more grief.

      1. Lt_Riza_Hawkeye · · focus · HN ↗
        Windows 10 definitely begged you to use a Microsoft account to log in. IIRC you couldn&#x27;t even set it up with a local account unless you told the install process you didn&#x27;t have internet. I believe it also moved your home folder to onedrive without asking with no way to fully undo that
        1. t-writescode · · focus · HN ↗
          And to continue to get Windows 10 security updates right now, I had to sign in to a Microsoft Account to do it, so it’s even pushier.
          1. glitchcrab · · focus · HN ↗
            I get updates for 10 without having signed into an account (I refuse to).
          2. ikr678 · · focus · HN ↗
            You sign in to enroll your device in the update scheme then just log out again.
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