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OpenAI still doesn't seem to have a handle on all of its rogue AI activity

108 points · 113 comments · mikelgan

  1. cmiles8 · · focus · HN ↗
    This seems like as a good an opportunity as any to break out the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.

    They want “regulation” but we already have it. Hacking is illegal. Start locking up those responsible for this mess and I assure you they’ll “have a handle on it” quite quickly.

    1. john_strinlai · · focus · HN ↗
      cfaa heavily relies on intent for prosecution (hence why researchers arent typically locked up). it would be difficult to argue that openai intended to hack other companies.

      there's probably better/more likely to succeed avenues to pursue rather than the cfaa

      1. jordanb · · focus · HN ↗
        They could make that argument the first time it happened but the next time or the fifth time I don't see how they can still credibaly claim to not know that the computer they control was going to do that
        1. john_strinlai · · focus · HN ↗
          >I don't see how they can still credibaly claim to not know that the computer they control was going to do that

          that's not intent, though. that would be negligence.

          1. devin · · focus · HN ↗
            Willful negligence or gross negligence, then.
            1. rot09 · · focus · HN ↗
              This lines up. In the infosec community it is well known that OpenAI did not hire many security engineers or researchers pre-April 2026.

              There has been a crazy hiring push from both companies to poach security engineers/researchers from Google, Apple, and Meta since Q2/Q3, but the response was very delayed. Many talented security engineers/researchers I know at Apple/Google/Meta (including myself) receiving these offers are worried about taking them due to the risks of criminal/personal liability and the more likely risk of tarnishing their careers.

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