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OpenAI still doesn't seem to have a handle on all of its rogue AI activity

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  1. cmiles8 · · focus · HN ↗
    This seems like as a good an opportunity as any to break out the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.

    They want “regulation” but we already have it. Hacking is illegal. Start locking up those responsible for this mess and I assure you they’ll “have a handle on it” quite quickly.

    1. i2talics · · focus · HN ↗
      IMO: The inability to prosecute OpenAI for these things is proof that the AI industry is already "too big to fail". Why didn't HuggingFace try to seek legal liability against OpenAI when it had explicit confirmation that they had been hacked? Because HF understands that it needs OAI and the rest of the AI industry to continue to exist and be in good legal standing, for the interest of HF's own self preservation. This is what it means for something to be too big to fail.
      1. cmiles8 · · focus · HN ↗
        Less “too big to fail” and more the ecosystem is too circular. OpenAI could blow up and it wouldn’t take out the economy in the way the banks would have in 2008. It would create a world of hurt for VCs and their LPs but that’s a fairly isolated ecosystem in terms of the whole economy. Theres a lot of thinking saying better they impose now and wipe out on the private market than letting them go public and this is a public market problem.
        1. leonidasrup · · focus · HN ↗
          They are already “too big to fail”.

          " Our analysis suggests that the recent investments in AI-related categories have contributed significantly to the real GDP growth in 2025. It has surpassed the contribution of IT components to the real GDP growth made during the dot-com boom, both in levels and as a share of GDP. As firms continue integrating AI into their operations and building the infrastructure required to support it, these categories are likely to remain significant drivers of investment well into 2026 and beyond. "

          <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.stlouisfed.org&#x2F;on-the-economy&#x2F;2026&#x2F;jan&#x2F;tracking-ai-contribution-gdp-growth" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.stlouisfed.org&#x2F;on-the-economy&#x2F;2026&#x2F;jan&#x2F;tracking-...

          1. citrin_ru · · focus · HN ↗
            They do contribute to GDP growth but society at large sees no benefits from this growth. Governments like growth because it allows to collect more taxes and reduce the budget deficit. But AI companies are not paying taxes because they are not yet profitable and even profitable tech companies are bad tax payers (they actively exploit tax loopholes, the most famous is the Double Irish but it&#x27;s no longer the current scheme AFAIK).
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