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1. ourmandave · 1790618257 · focus · HN ↗

   This is 100% cop's fault.

   She presented a current insurance coverage card to the officer and he still ticketed her because Flock said she wasn't covered.

   What would have happened if she showed the current coverage using the insurance app on her phone?

   1. caconym_ · 1790621696 · focus · HN ↗

      Why should a police officer trust a scrap of paper somebody could easily have faked vs. a massive networked software system that claims to have the up to date ground truth? What if, for instance, the victim got her insurance cards and then stopped making her monthly payments?

      (Incidentally, I assume paper insurance cards will cease to be considered valid before too long, and handing your unlocked phone to a cop will be coercively normalized.)

      Cops aren't intellectually inclined (or equipped, for that matter) to second guess a surveillance tool that's showing them an unequivocal answer to a question. This is 100% on Flock for selling a tool to users they know won't reliably question its output, despite whatever bullshit CYA terms and conditions come attached to it, and then failing to ensure that its output is correct.

      1. downrightmike · 1790621835 · focus · HN ↗

         Paper is how it has always been. If 71% of the calls flock sends cops on are false positives, that means that 71% time is time cops aren't doing their jobs and we are less safe.

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