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Pirating the Pirates

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  1. thewizzardofnl · · focus · HN ↗
    "“To me, it [the original Star Wars trilogy] doesn’t really exist anymore. It’s like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I’m sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it.” - George Lucas, 2004

    It is insane how much George Lucas has edited the original Star Wars trilogy. I think no movies have had more edits over time than Star Wars.

    1. jasonwatkinspdx · · focus · HN ↗
      Another part of the story a lot of people don't know is apparently Lucas's cut of the original Star Wars was horrible, so his wife came in and redid everything and that's the version that went to theaters. And she was the editor on the remaining two of the original trilogy as well.

      I think it's pretty clear to everyone now that when Lucas is flying solo his final output is... not great. He obviously imagined a universe a lot of people find compelling, but wasn't always the best person to realize the vision of that universe.

      1. Revanche1367 · · focus · HN ↗

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        1. dghlsakjg · · focus · HN ↗
          She won the Oscar for editing "A New Hope"

          I don't think its mythology to claim that Marcia Lucas edited the films. It's pretty well accepted reality.

          If the remasters and the episodes I-III are anything to judge by, George really does better when there is an editor that will check him.

          1. Revanche1367 · · focus · HN ↗
            Again, I never claimed she wasn’t good at her job or didn’t earn some credit for her work on New Hope. I guess I wrongly expected HN users to have better reading comprehension and nuance than redditors. My point was entirely that in this specific instance, her contribution was overemphasized by a brigade of redditors spreading misinformation.

            It’s well known that a group of fans who follow a certain youtube channel well known among star wars enthusiasts share the channel’s opinions on sites like reddit, and these became an oft-repeated myth spread there to discredit Lucas because they (like the channel admins) despise the sequel trilogy. They also don’t limit themselves to praising her editing work, but often claim that she was the _real_ creator of star wars and Lucas wouldn’t have been anywhere near as big without her. I don’t have any side on this, I am not particularly fond of the sequel trilogy nor a big fan of Lucas, but what I do dislike is the myth-making constantly pushed about various things on reddit.

            1. leoc · · focus · HN ↗
              Do you mean the prequel trilogy here?
              1. Revanche1367 · · focus · HN ↗
                Yes, got mixed up a bit between real world chronology and the star wars one.
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