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Pirating the Pirates

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  1. cosmic_cheese · · focus · HN ↗
    I've only barely skimmed the surface of the preservation world, but the irreverent attitude taken by the industry towards audiovisual media releases frustrates me greatly. That more accurate older releases are made unobtainable in favor of newer botched versions just adds insult to injury.

    I'm grateful that diminishing returns were hit earlier with audio, though, which limits the blast radius for music releases. Most classic albums have a range of different masterings available on audio CD, many of which are available cheaply secondhand, which makes getting ahold of a good/accurate release considerably less daunting.

    Movies and especially TV shows on the other hand are a mess. It shouldn't be a miracle to get a high-quality, faithful official remaster like the one Star Trek: TNG got.

    1. haunter · · focus · HN ↗
      > Movies and especially TV shows on the other hand are a mess. It shouldn't be a miracle to get a high-quality, faithful official remaster like the one Star Trek: TNG got.

      TV shows are even worse because of the soundtrack.

      Oh you watched this show with the iconic soundtrack? Too bad it's only available on the VHS release from 1995, they couldn't get the rights anymore so here is the same show but worse with different music

      Even video games are not exempt from that. GTA games has tons of music removed from the radios with later digital re-releases so currently the original console disc versions are the only way to play the games as they were released back then <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;GTATrilogy&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1gsqdc5&#x2F;what_songs_been_removed&#x2F;lxgbwgg&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;GTATrilogy&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1gsqdc5&#x2F;what_so...

      1. AbsurdCensor · · focus · HN ↗
        &gt; Oh you watched this show with the iconic soundtrack? Too bad it&#x27;s only available on the VHS release from 1995, they couldn&#x27;t get the rights anymore so here is the same show but worse with different music

        Even slightly more modern shows I think have had that happen as well. The Drew Carry show would have been a great example.

        1. sillyfluke · · focus · HN ↗
          Can someone give me more examples? I didn&#x27;t realize this was a thing and am kind of facinated.
          1. ray_kay777 · · focus · HN ↗
            Daria is another example - being on MTV they used a lot of popular music from the time which clearly did not cost them much extra at the time of TV broadcast but was replaced with generic music for the DVD release.
          2. tpmoney · · focus · HN ↗
            Interview With the Vampire theatrically ends with the rolling stones’ “Sympathy for the Devil” playing over the final scene and end credits. When the movie was on Netflix, that was cut from the soundtrack and replaced with an acoustic cover of the song.
          3. rendx · · focus · HN ↗
            <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Wonder_Years#DVD_music_replacements" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Wonder_Years#DVD_music_rep...
          4. criddell · · focus · HN ↗
            WKRP in Cincinnati

            <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;WKRP_in_Cincinnati#Music_licensing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;WKRP_in_Cincinnati#Music_licen...

          5. opello · · focus · HN ↗
            Scrubs was another one with pretty obvious music changes, because some were part of the dialogue or a joke that just doesn&#x27;t make sense after the change.
          6. cosmic_cheese · · focus · HN ↗
            Some anime on Netflix is affected. Off the top of my head, the iconic first ending theme for Naoki Urusawa&#x27;s Monster had its haunting vocals removed leaving only the backing track, and Neon Genesis Evangelion had its similarly iconic ending theme covers of Fly Me to the Moon sung by its voice actresses removed.
          7. cogman10 · · focus · HN ↗
            Malcom in the middle ran into this, it didn&#x27;t have DVDs for years.

            And I&#x27;m pretty sure the ones that got released were based on pirates when they were released.

          8. joquarky · · focus · HN ↗
            The episode of The Simpsons where Lisa gets a pony. Homer falls asleep at the wheel to a different lullaby than what was originally broadcast.

            The substitute is a subpar filler compared to the original.

          9. brokenmachine · · focus · HN ↗
            Dawson&#x27;s Creek had iconic music, but as far as I can tell, the series with the original music is unobtainium. Afaict the pirates can&#x27;t even get it.
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