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Updated Google Maps shows destruction of the city of Rafah

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saturn_vk · 1790616232 · focus · HN ↗
It's sad that most world leaders do nothing to combat such genocide. There are so few sanctions against the state, or specific people, of Israel. Foreign forums are very much still open for business to them.
1. bamboozled · 1790636445 · focus · HN ↗
  What do you think world leaders should've done differently?
  1. cogman10 · 1790637983 · focus · HN ↗
    A lot.
    Literally on Oct 7, Hamas tried to return civilian hostages, who the IDF killed. This is why Hamas changed policies to only give up hostages through 3rd parties. They reached out to israel to try and return hostages and were ignored. They reached out to the US to return hostages and were ignored. [1]
    So for starters, the US could have pressured Israel to negotiate with Hamas to return the hostages.
    As Israel started to show genocidal intent (for example, killing aide workers multiple times). The US could have at a minimum threaten to withhold aide. In fact, there are laws on the books that a country such as Israel committing war crimes is ineligible for aide.
    Finally, the UN should have deployed peace keepers to gaza specifically to stop the genocide.
    Actions could have been taken, but they weren't because our politicians are so bribed by Israeli lobby money as to turn a complete blind eye to it's misdeeds.
    [1] <a href="https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-politics/2026-09-15/ty-article/.premium/hostage-families-release-list-of-govt-decisions-preceding-oct-7/000001a0-a521-dea8-afe0-e5adef4a0000" rel="nofollow">https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-politics/2026-09-...
    bamboozled · 1790639274 · focus · HN ↗
    So you feel like after October 7, there should've just been a talk about what happened and some form of negotiation ?
    ebbi · 1790640739 · focus · HN ↗
    Well what else do you expect when you subjugate a native population for decades? Just expect perfect victims?
    The peaceful route didn't work. Only idiots will think continuing with the status quo will result in anything different.
    bamboozled · 1790641801 · focus · HN ↗
    Sorry buddy, you can't just attack children ad a music festival and get away with it, even if you're desperate.
    ebbi · 1790642014 · focus · HN ↗
    sorry buddy, you can't just kill 700k people, displace the rest into an open air prison for decades, and expect no blowback.
    You can't just continue to 'mow the lawn' where children are killed and kidnapped, put into Israeli prisons, and expect no blowback.
    You can't just shoot people in the knees while protesting peacefully, and then expect no blowback
    You can't just rape Palestinian prisoners (most of whom have been arrested under no charges), and expect no blowback.
    You can't just install bombs in pagers, and set it off amongst civilians, which resulted in children being injured or killed, and expect no blowback.
    Sorry buddy, but your days of gaslighting is over.
    bamboozled · 1790642452 · focus · HN ↗
    You provided a list of reasons why you feel like teenagers at a music festival should be murdered, right?
    Like my personal sentiment is, war is senseless, and both sides are wrong in some way or another. But yeah, I don't think children should be murdered period, so I'm not going to try and give a list of reasons why it's OK, because there isn't one.
    Anyone committing war crimes should be punished for it, period.
    My original question was simply, what should have been done differently "by the world leaders"?
    ebbi · 1790642953 · focus · HN ↗
    How many teenagers were killed by Hamas? And are there independent sources that verify this?
    Also, is Oct 7 enough justification to shoot 335 bullets at 6 year old Hind Rajab?
    Your questions reek of bias by trying to centre everything to Oct 7, as though history began there. If you really cared about children, you'd have referenced the thousands of Palestinian children killed by Israel before Oct 7.
    someonebaggy · 1790681613 · focus · HN ↗
    World leaders should stop giving free money to the guys who are doing a holocaust. I think we can all agree on that.
    bamboozled · 1790687635 · focus · HN ↗
    What do you think Israel should do now? What would be a sensible course of action going forwards?
    someonebaggy · 1790692533 · focus · HN ↗
    Their options are to prolong this forever-war (it's worked so far, 75 years, but getting precarious), or actually do the thing and destroy Palestine once and for all (won't be hard - they have nukes), or negotiate peace (also not difficult - it's always Israel who rejects reasonable peace deals), or accept their own destruction and flee.
    cindyllm · 1790702394 · focus · HN ↗
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