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Jensen Huang says AI distillation is 'competition.'

73 points · 81 comments · cramer4next

  1. captainbland · · focus · HN ↗
    I think it would be totally incoherent to say that copyrighted information is essentially fair game to include in your model but the outputs of your model are privileged against being included in other models.

    I'm not sure "competition" is necessarily the right word but I don't think that model creators and their political backers have a leg to stand on when complaining about distillation.

    1. ncr100 · · focus · HN ↗
      Edit: I realize I can't justify this and it's an irresponsible comment. Please ignore it.

      Original:

      Smells like a CEO justifying theft. It is reasonable to believe Wong thinks differently about law breaking, given this article.

      Something something legal liabilities something something?

      1. captainbland · · focus · HN ↗
        Which one? Seems like there's a lot of it going about.
        1. ncr100 · · focus · HN ↗
          I'm not sure I can defend my comment. So I'm feeling like taking it back.

          Regarding CEOs - it looks pretty common yes.

          I think rule breaking is a quality I've seen in entrepreneurs, thinking differently to use that euphemism. Challenging the dominant paradigm, to be tongue-in-cheek.

          I imagine it's a quality engendered by business leadership schools or maybe Market economics? To Find a need and fill it, but taken to the extreme. Can be figuring out where the illegal line is and walking it.

          Next, Commenting on the actual article again ..

          China, the Chinese government has a known history of stealing technology from other nations. (Aside: I assume all governments do this, State-Sponsored espionage/industrial or whatever.) So that is actual theft. China is also supporting industries that it considers strategically important to success. I am ignorant at the difference between, or limitation of reach of a Chinese government supported influence of theft activities, versus a business that happens to be in China and exhibits theft behavior All on its own.

          The area that I'm puzzling about is noticing how this business leader is in a position, through extraordinary concentration of wealth and power, to influence the efficacy of state-sponsored industrial espionage by helping to propose state-level policies by the United States and internationally. I don't know if the word oligarchy is the right word, but, it's like a corporation can author international financial and political policy. Pretty wild considering Nvidia was just like a $80 stock back in in the late '90s.

          1. dualarte · · focus · HN ↗
            I have no comment one way or the other, other than to say that I really respect this kind of attitude in discourse. Realizing you can’t defend an argument, and choosing not to just dig in and fight, is exactly the kind of thing that makes us better as a society. I hope I can be more like you!
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