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MongoDB CEO resigns to join Meta

366 points · 306 comments · diek

  1. everfrustrated · · focus · HN ↗
    "effective immediately" means either... he doesn't have a contract with a notice period, or he does and is willing to forfeit any benefit from it like share options, etc.

    One reason might be the share price has collapsed and he has no confidence in it coming back (pretty scandalous if he's the CEO!), or Meta has offered him inducements > what he's walking away from.

    Good way to burn a lot of bridges. He's never going to be hired as CEO by anybody for the rest of his career.

    1. 0x1ch · · focus · HN ↗
      CEOs manage to fail upwards their entire career, I don't suspect this will be any different. Just some "nerds on a forum" who got annoyed with his personal decisions.
      1. meowface · · focus · HN ↗
        I am sure this poignantly describes some CEOs, but my guess is this is probably empirically false on average.

        (I'd ask some LLM to research it but the people who would be doubtful it's false significantly overlap with the people who distrust LLMs, so I'll just leave this as a random guess and nothing more.)

        1. __MatrixMan__ · · focus · HN ↗
          Feels like survivorship bias to me. CEO's fail up, except those that fail down, and the latter group aren't CEO's anymore, so they're less likely to show up in a sample.
          1. moregrist · · focus · HN ↗
            It might be, but ... there are a lot of us who've seen this happen time and time again.

            You have some startup, the founder is either young or doesn't want to do the CEO stuff. Things kind of eek along until the founder either steps aside or is removed by the board because a) it's time for a "grown-up" CEO; b) the CEO needs real sales experience; c) the founder overpromised and under-delivered; d) board/VC politics make it helpful to install a buddy as CEO; e) etc.

            Then the CEO clock starts, typically they have 18 months to get lucky and hit their metrics. They do a lot of glad-handing. They hire "their team" of sales/marketing/etc people. They spend A LOT of money. And I mean A LOT. They talk about OKRs or SMRTs and KPIs. Out of nowhere a small army of project managers show up and try to tell you how to do your job and why you can't just talk to the <thing X> team directly but have to go through them for "efficiency" and "visibility."

            In 3-6 months, senior engineering and R&D staff starts to leave. Whatever culture you had slips away. HR has "culture" meetings to "find the right company culture."

            Sales/product can't sell and points the finger at R&D, maybe even for the right reasons. You OKR/KPI harder, but it doesn't matter because nothing addresses whatever the underlying problem is. Multiple senior people have pointed loudly to the problem and are ignored; they're often not managers so it's unclear if they were even heard.

            At some point there are one or more rounds of layoffs; sometimes these are announced, sometimes it's just a gradual attrition.

            Eventually the CEO clock runs out. They don't get lucky. Nothing they did helped, and some of it hurt. They collect their $1M severance, get to keep their stock, get 9-12 months of health insurance, and move on. In a year or two you hear about them joining a new company as CEO.

            In the meantime, you've either moved on or have a new CEO with a new 18-month clock.

            1. Grombobulous · · focus · HN ↗
              Perhaps CEOs are like NFL quarterbacks. They get all the credit when things go right and all the blame when they go wrong. In reality, they only have a limited number of levers to pull. Only extraordinary ones can overcome a bad team or a more hostile external environment.
              1. __MatrixMan__ · · focus · HN ↗
                If that were the case there would be more of them in jail.
          2. bradleyjg · · focus · HN ↗
            Perhaps. But does anyone at all outside the c suite fail up in the same way? Fail spectacularly and get a comparable or better opportunity?

            Even if it’s only 30% of CEOs and 15% of other CxOs there’s still an anomaly there to be explained.

          3. joquarky · · focus · HN ↗
            Those that fall were insufficiently sociopathic.
        2. pepitogarvan · · focus · HN ↗
          LLm spoted lol
          1. meowface · · focus · HN ↗
            My post doesn't have any LLM tells, nor have I ever used one to write a social media comment.

            That would actually be interesting if LLMs were to ever refer to LLM trust in the way I did. Kind of a scary thought.

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