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Coding is not solved

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  1. askonomm · · focus · HN ↗
    What I've found is that AI allows lazy and incompetent developers to be more lazy and more incompetent. This then has the effect that product quality suffers more, faster. As a result of the sheer amount of code now being pushed out, code reviews, a thing that previously somewhat prevented lazy and incompetent developers from pushing out horrible code, is effectively dead in the water since no human can actually review such amounts of code realistically anymore. Some companies have adopted AI to review code, which, well ... you have AI make code, AI review code ... I hope you can see the stupidity here if you expect to see any deterministic results at all.

    I guess time will tell if the consumer will adapt to the lower quality of products, allowing companies to justify the existence of lazy and incompetent developers, or if the consumer will push back, forcing companies to increase the quality of their developers.

    Note: I use AI every day and it is entirely possible to create high quality software with it, so long as you are not lazy and incompetent.

    1. whatever1 · · focus · HN ↗
      Even if you are competent I cannot review your 5,000 lines of code you produce per day vs the 100 you were producing before the LLM apocalypse.
      1. rfgplk · · focus · HN ↗
        5,000 is the output velocity of someone not fully immersed in agentic coding. I've seen repos do ~100k to ~250k loc changes per week.
        1. teiferer · · focus · HN ↗
          So where is all that new software? My laptop and phone run essentially the same software as 2 or 3 years ago. Yes there were some minor updates to some apps, but nothing faster than in the years prior.

          Where does all that supposed productivity go?

          1. al_borland · · focus · HN ↗
            The only real updates I've seen to anything have been AI features... so all this AI is only being used to add AI to stuff. Most of which the average person doesn't seem to want or use.
            1. Kotlopou · · focus · HN ↗
              If I understand it correctly, Firefox has some new-ish features that are marketed as AI-made, like tab grouping and tab comments... which also just get in the way for me.

              The problem is that as a lay user of Firefox, I don't know how you could even make it better in terms of features (I could see it being faster etc.).

              1. al_borland · · focus · HN ↗
                Firefox has added a lot of anti-features, like constant pop-ups that randomly trying to explain the UI to me. It’s almost as bad as the needless browser onboarding process in Edge (on servers this a huge pain).
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