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Coding is not solved

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  1. askonomm · · focus · HN ↗
    What I've found is that AI allows lazy and incompetent developers to be more lazy and more incompetent. This then has the effect that product quality suffers more, faster. As a result of the sheer amount of code now being pushed out, code reviews, a thing that previously somewhat prevented lazy and incompetent developers from pushing out horrible code, is effectively dead in the water since no human can actually review such amounts of code realistically anymore. Some companies have adopted AI to review code, which, well ... you have AI make code, AI review code ... I hope you can see the stupidity here if you expect to see any deterministic results at all.

    I guess time will tell if the consumer will adapt to the lower quality of products, allowing companies to justify the existence of lazy and incompetent developers, or if the consumer will push back, forcing companies to increase the quality of their developers.

    Note: I use AI every day and it is entirely possible to create high quality software with it, so long as you are not lazy and incompetent.

    1. whatever1 · · focus · HN ↗
      Even if you are competent I cannot review your 5,000 lines of code you produce per day vs the 100 you were producing before the LLM apocalypse.
      1. rfgplk · · focus · HN ↗
        5,000 is the output velocity of someone not fully immersed in agentic coding. I've seen repos do ~100k to ~250k loc changes per week.
        1. teiferer · · focus · HN ↗
          So where is all that new software? My laptop and phone run essentially the same software as 2 or 3 years ago. Yes there were some minor updates to some apps, but nothing faster than in the years prior.

          Where does all that supposed productivity go?

          1. Powdering7082 · · focus · HN ↗
            Number of git pushes in GH is way up. 320M in Q1 this year vs 80M in Q1 or 2020.

            <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;innovationgraph.github.com&#x2F;global-metrics&#x2F;git-pushes" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;innovationgraph.github.com&#x2F;global-metrics&#x2F;git-pushes

            Just because you haven&#x27;t installed new software doesn&#x27;t mean that new software doesn&#x27;t exist.

            1. californical · · focus · HN ↗
              But also, having significantly more code churn doesn’t necessarily mean there is more or better software
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