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Coding is not solved

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  1. bushido · · focus · HN ↗
    It's very interesting. I'm very enthusiastic about AI and coding, But I find myself agreeing with the author. Coding is not solved.

    Instead, I think what's closer to solved and what we're in the process of solving is product development.

    Story: A while ago, I had a few programmers who were really, really fast almost always missed the mark on the assignment wrong. I loved having them on projects because in the time my senior precise engineers could deliver a MVP, the fast engineers would build the wrong thing, collect feedback, reiterate, build the wrong thing, collect feedback, eventually inching closer and closer to a product people would pay for, and it would almost always get delivered faster than my seniors.

    I feel AI does the same thing.

    1. rfgplk · · focus · HN ↗
      > Instead, I think what's closer to solved and what we're in the process of solving is product development.

      Isn't it the opposite? How to build something is rather solved, but what to build isn't?

      1. bushido · · focus · HN ↗
        >Isn't it the opposite? How to build something is rather solved, but what to build isn't?

        But that's not solved in traditional product development either.

        Product development an iterative process to get a product fully functional. In 2021, if you ask me what the timeline for a small product/substantial feature, I'd say a few weeks to a month to get a basic MVP, and then another 12 to 18 months to get a feature polished and in a good shape to be stable.

        When people put it in the coding frame, what they do it as is saying we've gone from 18 months to minutes or days. That's just not true.

        We have gone from eighteen months to depending on the complexity, a 1-4 months.

        aside: To be candid though, the compressed time also means the frustrations people experience with a product in 18 months have also been compressed. They still exist, they're all there, they're now just non-stop.

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