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1. anon291 · 1790605862 · focus · HN ↗

   My mom received threats of rape and assault and direct violence against her vehicle as a teacher in los Angeles public schools. Turned her from a bleeding heart liberal into a die hard conservative.

   Yes it's gone too far. And the administrations don't care. Addressing it requires acknowledging uncomfortable truths

   1. Vasbarlog · 1790606386 · focus · HN ↗

      I wonder how conservatism is the answer to this crisis.

      1. nailer · 1790607373 · focus · HN ↗

         Conservatives believe that people need to meet the same standards, and that it is racist to not hold people to those standards. This means if a black kid at a poor school hits a teacher it's treated the same as if a white kid at a rich school hits a teacher - very seriously.

         Liberals believe in intersectionalism, and that marginalized groups need unique affordances. This means accepting that if a black kid at a poor school hits a teacher, it may be because of poverty and racism and we should understand the issue in that context.

         1. bevilp · 1790608328 · focus · HN ↗

            Conservatives believe in defunding public education, social security and perpetuating root causes of a lot of issues like this that can directly be linked to, racism, poverty and lack of access to education. Conservatives believe in double standards when it comes to "holding people to the same standards". White kids get off scott free way more often for the same crimes than kids of color. Do your research.

            1. criagsbkbk · 1790618904 · focus · HN ↗

               I don't think this is consistent with reality. Are the historical inequities causing a lot these issues as you mention, or are you arguing there actually are no issues because in fact white kids are committing just as many crimes?

               In a world where we solve racism, poverty, and lack of access to education do we expect white kids to now be committing way more crimes than non-whites?

         2. [deleted] · 1790608942 · focus · HN ↗

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         3. mahboi · 1790615613 · focus · HN ↗

            Conservative people are definitely more favorable of tough punishment against students and giving teachers more power, but do conservative politicians actually pass laws to this effect? I'm wondering what a bad school looks like in a red vs blue district.
         4. hunterpayne · 1790637922 · focus · HN ↗

            "Liberals believe in intersectionalism"

            I must have missed that part of Voltaire. Its progressives (socialists) that believe in intersectionalism and they don't agree with liberals on almost anything. If you think otherwise, you just don't know what any of those terms actually mean.

            1. nailer · 1790679471 · focus · HN ↗

               Your correct in those terms actual meaning, but no, that’s now how they’re used in current mainstream political discourse in the USA. Do you live here?

               1. nailer · 1790787885 · focus · HN ↗

                  Also if you’re disputing word definitions- you’re using ‘progressive’ in its political meaning rather than its logically correct one, the political meaning assumes all movement towards the left is progress.

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