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1. Conlectus · 1790598456 · focus · HN ↗

   There’s a specific downside to LLM-based development that people can get neck deep in a new project without interfacing with the existing work in the field.

   In this case, this is basically a poorly specified implementation of half of XMPP. Of course, I half expect the LLM would have mentioned that at some point, but the repository does not.

   1. dale_glass · 1790601737 · focus · HN ↗

      Unfortunately XMPP is an absolutely terrible protocol. IRC's not much good either, but at least it has the excuse of being ancient and limited in what it wanted to achieve.

      I don't know how it just happens that sending text messages to people can manage to result in specs that are painful to implement.

      1. monkeywork · 1790605151 · focus · HN ↗

         >Unfortunately XMPP is an absolutely terrible protocol

         Can you provide more details here? I've never seen an issue with the protocol at all, more issues with feature difference between servers depending on what they have decided to implement or not.

         1. nunobrito · 1790608370 · focus · HN ↗

            Identities. Creating an identity in XMPP is an absolute mess and requires domains along with approvals. At least in IRC this isn't complicated.

            My own preference goes to NOSTR, just a set of public/private keys as identity and nothing else needed.

            1. sellmesoap · 1790621563 · focus · HN ↗

               Or ANproto <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;anproto.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;anproto.com&#x2F; without the nostr baggage, what little there is.

               1. nunobrito · 1790629267 · focus · HN ↗

                  There is zero baggage on NOSTR regarding identities. An npub became the non-ambiguous way to reference anyone regardless of where they are writing from.

                  Thank you for the reference to that project called anproto, never had heard of it and I&#x27;m still without understanding what problem it really solves. Seems to encrypt texts but then contains zero outside metadata to route it somewhere. The website is very scarce on details for someone unfamiliar the scuttle-something they mention.

                  1. sellmesoap · 1790714376 · focus · HN ↗

                     The nostr baggage I referred to is the crypto culture on the network. I appreciate nostr for being sparse as well. ActivityPub doesn&#x27;t feel approachable re: understanding the protocol.

                     There&#x27;s an example ANproto in use at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiredove.net" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiredove.net it&#x27;s pretty clean but not very active, yet another experimental social network playground!

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