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Parley: Federated, decentralised chat that speaks plain IRC

330 points · 190 comments · davidcollantes

  1. xena · · focus · HN ↗
    How do you plan to handle bad actors creating biblical amounts of servers dynamically and then spamming at line rate from all of those servers?
    1. cromka · · focus · HN ↗
      This is why we can no longer have nice things...
      1. warkdarrior · · focus · HN ↗
        Online communities are meant to be pharmed..
    2. arm32 · · focus · HN ↗
      That sounds pretty load-bearing.
      1. y-curious · · focus · HN ↗
        Actually it’s a footgun gate
        1. Retr0id · · focus · HN ↗
          An honest gap
    3. malcolmxxx · · focus · HN ↗
      And then, all galaxies move away from us.
    4. someonebaggy · · focus · HN ↗
      Why would they need to "create servers" instead of just throwing UDP packets at you like a normal DDOS?
      1. Retr0id · · focus · HN ↗
        Because throwing UDP packets requires a bandwidth advantage (aside from reflection attacks), whereas application-layer attacks can impose an outsized cost on the victim.
        1. someonebaggy · · focus · HN ↗
          But you said line rate - that's a simple bandwidth exhaustion.
          1. Retr0id · · focus · HN ↗
            Line rate of sender != line rate of receiver (I am also not GP).
            1. someonebaggy · · focus · HN ↗
              It probably is though. They're probably both 1Gbps Ethernet.
              1. Retr0id · · focus · HN ↗
                It's a federated network, so even if everyone has symmetrical 1Gbps links you cant throw 1Gbps at all of them at once.
    5. GoblinSlayer · · focus · HN ↗
      Temporarily delete messages from unknown servers.
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