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1. spiclk · 1790590013 · focus · HN ↗

   Hopefully the article authors are only attempting to reach their target audience, but please don't encourage numerical illiteracy!

   One-tenth the (fuel) cost, or 90% cheaper.

   (That is, if you own a house with off-street parking).

   1. consp · 1790592863 · focus · HN ↗

      I've had this discussion many times. Unless you own a house, with solar panels and your own parking spot any cost/km gains on fuel with EV are marginal. Gas get's adjusted more quickly but eventually the roadside charge prices will catch up. And many "researchers" take the average price (not any better metric) which is heavily skewed by "public" chargers which you cannot use since they are inaccessible on private property but are public for tax reasons.

      1. solatic · 1790598456 · focus · HN ↗

         100% this.

         I live in a place with year-round fair weather, so I use a petrol motorcycle as my primary vehicle, and live in a rented apartment with no dedicated parking space or possibility of using an at-home charger.

         Even with incredibly high petrol taxes causing petrol to cost more than 2.2 EUR/L (like 9.5 USD/gallon), the public fast EV charger rates available at refueling stations are so expensive, that when you take great motorcycle mileage into account, it still doesn't pay to buy an EV, even when only considering charging/refueling costs. Of course, if I could recharge from slow household electric power, it would be a different story. But the politicians are already worried enough about the loss of petrol taxes that the odds, IMO, are quite low of EV charging staying cheaper than petrol refueling (particularly when the vast majority of the petrol price is taxes to begin with).

         1. soco · 1790604772 · focus · HN ↗

            My EV transport costs are roughly half of gas costs, only charged at home. I had zero garage visits in two years - but the car was also new so that might change.

            1. spiclk · 1790681134 · focus · HN ↗

               My transport costs are essentially zero, and maintenance so far has consisted of occasionally oiling the chain (although this is a new bicycle).

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