AI companies in race to demonstrate their model most threatening to humanity
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AI companies in race to demonstrate their model most threatening to humanity
Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.
stephbook · · focus · HN ↗
The intelligence is there and so is the physical incarnation.
Google's models fold proteins better than humans and Covid might have been engineered and inadvertently escaped from a lab.
But when CEOs warn of that, they're dismissed as scare mongers. Why? Are only powerless internet commentators allowed to be fearful?
coffeeindex · · focus · HN ↗
brainwad · · focus · HN ↗
dmbche · · focus · HN ↗
You got it
solenoid0937 · · focus · HN ↗
bamboozled · · focus · HN ↗
Bit strange no?
I'm a bit fatalistic about it all now. The cat is out of the bag, unless we see some never seen before leadership from the current US admin there is almost zero point in worrying about it. Not going to pretend what the future holds but it's looking unpredictable, as usual :)
solenoid0937 · · focus · HN ↗
watwut · · focus · HN ↗
I dont see how these two arw obvious. If nothing else, people running things dont care about actual harm done to real people. Their idea of safety is "making sure humans merge with ai and we will have transhumanist society in far away future".
With those priorities, short term stuff like "less people dying this year" dont matter.
solenoid0937 · · focus · HN ↗
Seems like unwarranted cynicism to me. If they didn't, they wouldn't give a shit about discussing the risks of AI. You should actually talk to some people at the labs.
simoncion · · focus · HN ↗
Competitive pressures from whom, exactly? Based on his public statements, Altman seems to be confident that he can instruct OpenAI to halt R&D while they try to figure out just how exactly their computer-hacking tool managed to access the Internet and hack computers this time. [0]
Plus, the only US-based LLM manufacturers that are doing bleeding-edge work are all simultaneously screaming that they need to be stopped before they commit even more crimes, and/or maybe eliminate all of humanity. On top of that -if memory serves- Anthropic's CEO called to exclude China from the conversation about regulating the development of LLMs, so he clearly believes that China need not be part of the coordination on this problem. Maybe that's because the official line from these companies is that the LLMs coming out of China are 100% ripoffs of Anthropic's and OpenAI's work... so -clearly- cutting off China's access will solve that problem?
[0] Pro tip: It's because the network that the machines running the software is connected to permits traffic from those machines out to the Internet. See [1] for some more discussion on the topic.
[1] <<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49862136">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49862136>
patcon · · focus · HN ↗
I say this as an intense user of these tools. But they should rightfully be understood as terrifying, and their continued frontier development is imho not safe.
asjfkdlf · · focus · HN ↗
We can ignore that and push for something reasonable. In other industries such as housing construction we have building codes without making housing construction a monopoly. We don’t just let random people build nuclear power plants and then go “if you think it’s dangerous, stop doing it.” People are going to do dangerous things even when they know it’s dangerous. They also know it’s dangerous.
patcon · · focus · HN ↗
kreyenborgi · · focus · HN ↗
bamboozled · · focus · HN ↗
Well are they going to stop developing the tech or not? If not, then you can see why people don't trust what they're saying. I mean if it's that dangerous, why not step down from your role as CEO to demonstrate how seriously you take the threat? Why not immediately call a pause on all training, today ?
WarmWash · · focus · HN ↗
Only suckers say "not me".
amelius · · focus · HN ↗
Because they conveniently skip the part that investors don't like: that liberal free market capitalism will be destroyed by AI.
cindyllm · · focus · HN ↗
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