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1. skeledrew · 1790585209 · focus · HN ↗

   All that keeps jumping out at me is how they've set it to refuse giving users thinking tokens and prompts for full reasoning in output. Just drives me further away; I may not stop using Claude completely for now, but I'll be moving even more of my primary workload to Chinese providers. That's where openness and freedom is now at.

   1. gadders · 1790591035 · focus · HN ↗

      I mean there is a good reason for that, no? Distillation is an issue.

      1. AndroTux · 1790592298 · focus · HN ↗

         Not an issue for me, the end user.

         1. gadders · 1790601212 · focus · HN ↗

            Ha, fair.
      2. Lalabadie · 1790598159 · focus · HN ↗

         Is distillation an issue that stops you from picking a model, while scraping/torrenting as much of the Internet as possible is fine?

         It's not like Anthropic and OAI have clean hands, especially as they're now racing each other to appear the most dangerous to civilization.

      3. skeledrew · 1790601760 · focus · HN ↗

         As a paying user, I expect to get what I'm paying for. I'm paying for thinking tokens, so I should be getting them, and in a way that I can actually read if/when I want without relying on any proprietary tools. I have no interest in being locked in.

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