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1. skeledrew · 1790585209 · focus · HN ↗

   All that keeps jumping out at me is how they've set it to refuse giving users thinking tokens and prompts for full reasoning in output. Just drives me further away; I may not stop using Claude completely for now, but I'll be moving even more of my primary workload to Chinese providers. That's where openness and freedom is now at.

   1. OtomotO · 1790585573 · focus · HN ↗

      Ironic, especially given 100 hundred years of Hollywood proaganda telling the west that the US are the center of freedom.

      Which was and is true to some extent.

      And don't get me wrong, China is a dictatorship, and a tyranny for some.

      But then again, the west is a tyranny for some.

      1. muzani · 1790585784 · focus · HN ↗

         That's how the cycles happen. China realizes they could use a little more freedom and US realizes that they could do with a little less. The emerging/shrinking middle class of both countries also moves the sweet spot.

         1. OtomotO · 1790587823 · focus · HN ↗

            Absolutely!

            Doesn't make it any less amusing from the outside, to see the US struggle with their identity. (It's most always just a struggle when freedom becomes less)

         2. jimmydoe · 1790616069 · focus · HN ↗

            Both countries have had less freedom in the past 10 years.

            1. OtomotO · 1790923828 · focus · HN ↗

               It seems to be a general trend among western societies.

               There are many laws in the EU that cut away freedoms.

               But such is the circle of life.

               At some point people will break free again, possibly violently.

               I don't believe in a 1984 scenario with eternally dull and nice citizens.

               Human apes are violent by nature.

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