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Nissan's third generation e-POWER powertrain

170 points · 462 comments · mroche

  1. gcanyon · · focus · HN ↗
    One thing that always puzzled me was how the gas engines in hybrids were so efficient. Technology Connections has a great video explainer: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KnUFH5GX_fI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KnUFH5GX_fI

    tl;dw: constant RPM and a weird stroke geometry where the power stroke is longer than the other strokes to extract more energy from the expanding gasses.

    1. jostmey · · focus · HN ↗
      I&#x27;m surprised there isn&#x27;t more effort to create hybrids in reverse--an electric car with optional gas generator. The gas generator could run at constant speed, never changing RMP, while the battery handles constant changes in acceleration. The idea is not mine. I&#x27;ve heard about it in China
      1. happosai · · focus · HN ↗
        Range extender EVs made a lot more sense a decade a go when batteries were much more expensive, and fast chargers were not yet ubiquitous. Then range extenders were more affordable than EVs and could go to places EVs couldn&#x27;t.

        Now these EREVs are mostly luxury niche of big cars (where extra space taken by two power trains doesn&#x27;t matter) for people who don&#x27;t want to spend 20 minutes at rapid chargers on that yearly long trip they do. Or for people who live in some global warming ignoring backwater[1] that hasn&#x27;t built out rapid charger yet.

        [1] even China has ubiquitous fast charging network now

        1. whatever1 · · focus · HN ↗
          In America we don’t have enough chargers for roadtrips.

          The capacity issue is specially evident on long weekends or sundays when everyone needs to use the same few chargers.

          1. lostapathy · · focus · HN ↗
            Just got a Tesla. I was worried about travel through western Iowa, it seemed fairly worst case looking at the map of my route, because I’m not on the interstate and the Tesla superchargers aren’t near my route. To my surprise, it was a non-issue. Modern EVs have enough range and there are indeed just enough chargers.
            1. bluGill · · focus · HN ↗
              &gt; just enough

              That is my objection. There are just enough chargers. However only if you plan around chargers. There is a gas station in nearly every small town. You can safely say any town that can&#x27;t support a gas station cannot support anything else (no stores, bars, restaurants) and only rarely be wrong. Most small towns don&#x27;t have a charger at all, and if they do it is often level 2 which means stay overnight to get useful range. (I don&#x27;t understand these - the ones I&#x27;ve seen are not near anyplace you might stay overnight)

              1. lostapathy · · focus · HN ↗
                I think there&#x27;s a common misconception by non-EV drivers that every charge you have to wait until the battery is full - you don&#x27;t. You just have to charge enough to get to your next stop.

                If you&#x27;re in a small town with a level 2 charger at a city park, you just charge enough to get back to civilization. Then hit the fast charger when you&#x27;re back to the main highway.

                Yeah, it takes a little planning to hit charging stops - but it&#x27;s not actually much planning. And the built-in navigation takes care of most of it for you anyway. I was genuinely surprised on my first trip (again, through not-EV-friendly territory) how much of a non-issue it was in practice, and how much I didn&#x27;t feel like I was waiting on chargers (even relatively slow &quot;fast chargers&quot;). I just took my time using the restroom, grabbed a fresh drink, checked my notifications on my phone, and it was time to head out again.

                1. WarmWash · · focus · HN ↗
                  It&#x27;s called the &quot;Gas Station Mindset&quot;
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