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Nissan's third generation e-POWER powertrain

170 points · 462 comments · mroche

  1. gcanyon · · focus · HN ↗
    One thing that always puzzled me was how the gas engines in hybrids were so efficient. Technology Connections has a great video explainer: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KnUFH5GX_fI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KnUFH5GX_fI

    tl;dw: constant RPM and a weird stroke geometry where the power stroke is longer than the other strokes to extract more energy from the expanding gasses.

    1. jostmey · · focus · HN ↗
      I&#x27;m surprised there isn&#x27;t more effort to create hybrids in reverse--an electric car with optional gas generator. The gas generator could run at constant speed, never changing RMP, while the battery handles constant changes in acceleration. The idea is not mine. I&#x27;ve heard about it in China
      1. geokon · · focus · HN ↗
        Theoretically couldn&#x27;t you take an electric car and put an off-the-shelf generator in your frunk and wire it up to charge the battery as you drive?
        1. gambiting · · focus · HN ↗
          &gt;&gt;and put an off-the-shelf generator

          Even my really underpowered PHEV has a 65kW electric motor. No &quot;off the shelf generator&quot; can generate 65kW, in fact it would be a huge unit that could.

          We could of course say - well, it doesn&#x27;t need to match peak usage, it just has to charge the battery faster than it depletes - you still probably need around 20kW for steady motorway driving, and that&#x27;s a pretty hefty generator.

          1. geokon · · focus · HN ↗
            I don&#x27;t think you need to have it match the depletion rate. Even at say 10kW you&#x27;d doubling the effective range. The point is people want to be able to use their car for that twice a year road trip, or drive to the inlaws for Thanksgiving. If you can attach something that extends the range for these occasion then that&#x27;s probably enough.

            Furthermore, the generator can run 24&#x2F;7, but realistically you will at most drive ~6 hours a day. So for a leisurely road-trip this may be enough to avoid needing stops at charging stations

          2. benj111 · · focus · HN ↗
            20kw would be enough to maintain the battery though? So you could halve that and &#x27;only&#x27; double the range in the worst case.
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