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Musk, the Movie

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  1. Lerc · · focus · HN ↗
    I would like to see an accurate representation of what it is that is up with Elon Musk, but I doubt there will be an objective analysis possible until the impact of the analysis is purely one of historical record.

    Even then history isn't terribly objective, it just tends to be better than what is said when those who say things can gain or lose advantage based upon what they say.

    1. devindotcom · · focus · HN ↗
      kind of sounds like even you don't know what you want
      1. Lerc · · focus · HN ↗
        Accuracy. It doesn't seem like an unreasonable request.

        Musk appears different to different people. An insight into what, if any, represents the real person, and in what contexts Musk presents a persona, and why?

        Perhaps I was harsh on historians, they do strive for accuracy, but they themselves will tell you how much perspectives of the day colour the representations. In many respects, it is similar to science. The answers that history give us are not the guaranteed truth, they are just the best answers that we have a consensus on at the moment.

        1. JumpCrisscross · · focus · HN ↗
          > An insight into what, if any, represents the real person, and in what contexts Musk presents a persona, and why?

          I don't think we can have the Ken Burns series until Musk is dead. He's remade himself too fully since Covid, and that means we can't really predict what the man today will do based on what he was before.

          1. Lerc · · focus · HN ↗
            In one sense that encourages me, if he keeps remaking himself there is a chance that he will be deradicalised.
            1. oliculipolicula · · focus · HN ↗
              Deradicalisation gradient here is positive, don't you think?

              <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;SipsTea&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1vhe955&#x2F;everything_wrong_with_the_world_is_in_this_video&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;SipsTea&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1vhe955&#x2F;everything...

              The postpandemic moves would then be less extreme than before (one commenter went so far as to say that they were already zero)

              Sam Altman&#x27;s upcoming midlife crises are more worrying. This other man has been surfing his.

              The space laser thing was (unsurprisingly in different ways to different people) just a minor readjustment..

              1. JumpCrisscross · · focus · HN ↗
                &gt; Altman&#x27;s upcoming midlife crises are more worrying

                Altman has a life partner by his side. Musk does not. That really stabilizes a person. (Particularly, it seems, a man.)

                If Altman pulls a Bezos and trades for a younger Oliver, yes, we should get worried. Given the low-key maturity with which they seem to pilot that relationship, I&#x27;m not.

                1. oliculipolicula · · focus · HN ↗
                  Almost certainly agree. the gap is filled by my peculiar paranoia, which has something to do with how deftly (precisely?) Sam, alone, is tacking the political winds

                  (Better compare Altman with Thiel, yes, low-key maturity, children, more relationships under the belt(?), detachment from operations.. but also more worrying than Musk because of the access to influence&#x2F;sophisticated &quot;team-play&quot;. I wonder at the chatrooms&#x2F;mailing lists that now have Thiel+Altman+Zuck+Karp but not Musk)

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