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Hitachi to double US production of small and medium-sized power transformers

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  1. jakedata · · focus · HN ↗
    I read about Solid State Transformers <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.powermag.com&#x2F;the-solid-state-shift-reinventing-the-transformer-for-modern-grids&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.powermag.com&#x2F;the-solid-state-shift-reinventing-t... with some interest. However they have some weird failure modes. At least large chunks of metal twisted around large chunks of a different metal are predictable and don&#x27;t need firmware updates.

    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu&#x2F;II_16.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu&#x2F;II_16.html

    1. ahartmetz · · focus · HN ↗
      Solid state transformers are a misnomer: Traditional transformers are already solid state - no moving parts. And SSTs do the actual voltage &#x2F; current transformation using a smaller, higher frequency traditional transformer. A more appropriate name for SSTs would be high frequency transformers or IF (intermediate frequency) transformers or something.
      1. algo_trader · · focus · HN ↗
        What&#x27;s the top V these cretins will reach? Can they reach 10-20kV? Can they be &quot;stacked&quot; ?

        IIUC the real bottleneck is in transmission (&gt;50kv) not distribution transformers.

        1. ahartmetz · · focus · HN ↗
          It seems like solid-state transformers aren&#x27;t entirely stupid - they can be smaller and lighter and control phase angle (to control power flow direction and power factor) like HVDC connections do. But their efficiency is less than the 98-99% of the traditional big hunks of copper and steel, so until that improves, they likely won&#x27;t see widespread use.
        2. jauntywundrkind · · focus · HN ↗
          Yeah, it&#x27;s all stacking. Lots and lots and lots of IGBT in series. Now though they have pretty advanced gate control, to build &quot;Modular Multi-Level Converter (MMC)&quot;, switching various groups of modules on and off to approximate a sine wave. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;HVDC_converter#Modular_Multi-Level_Converter_(MMC)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;HVDC_converter#Modular_Multi-L...

          Fun facts: the Trans-Bay Cable is credited by wikipedia at least as the first MMC implementation. Started ~2003, permitted 2007, completed 2010, the cable is 53 miles, and runs at 230kV, providing reliable power to SF; a response to a critical 1998 power outage when two local power plants shut down (since decomissioned for good) and the grid failed to carry the load. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Trans_Bay_Cable" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Trans_Bay_Cable

          Coincidentaly, the original patent expired in 2003, so uh, interest may have started rising recently. None the less, thanks Rainer Marquardt and Anton Lesnicar for your MMC invention. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ieeexplore.ieee.org&#x2F;document&#x2F;1304403" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ieeexplore.ieee.org&#x2F;document&#x2F;1304403

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