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When did Google get so weird?

2011 points · 1123 comments · sancho-panza

  1. Hugsbox · · focus · HN ↗
    Yesterday I tried to google "can the Halifax Wanderers still make the CPL playoffs?"

    So obviously what appears right at the top is the AI summary, which told me "they've already secured their #4 position and made the playoffs". I knew this wasn't true, and I guess I could have just scrolled down a bit further and found my answer but now I was curious.

    So I said "that's not true, they're still #5, what I want to know is _could they still make the playoffs_"

    It says they've got an upcoming game against Ottawa, and if they win their chances are good. That game has already taken place, so I correct it again and finally I get a reasonable answer.

    My question is: what's the point of the AI in the search engine if it itself isn't going to use the search engine first before answering? Like, I can't wrap my head around that. The answer is on the same page as its hallucination. It could have done a cursory look around before first hallucinating something completely false, and when corrected the first time giving me outdated information. It's meant to be A SEARCH ENGINE!

    1. segmondy · · focus · HN ↗
      The AI is just signal to the market that they are AI first. Their AI on search is pure garbage. It's obviously a very super light weight model to be able to support the volume of daily searches. If they used their frontier to power search folks will not pay for their cloud offering.
      1. thrance · · focus · HN ↗
        You're right, but then, surely investors also use Google? They can see how garbage AI results are, right?
        1. warkdarrior · · focus · HN ↗
          I have my assistant do any searches for me -- she's fast and excellent at finding solid information.
        2. mrguyorama · · focus · HN ↗
          Investors themselves just aren't especially smart. They think the results are good because they sound confident.
          1. asdfman123 · · focus · HN ↗
            It's not even that. Imagine you were an investor: you'd invest in stupid things knowing that "investors aren't really smart." Other savvy investors would understand you're investing in slop, too, and follow suit.

            You have a system in which investors are usually smart, but betting on collective stupidity.

            Same with, say, the Chinese real estate market, where they were building apartments that no one could live in. Everyone is intelligent enough to know they were useless buildings, but you can still make money speculating on the bubble.

      2. Quarrelsome · · focus · HN ↗
        its probably part of the reason that people still think the tech sucks.
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