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There are no "rogue" AI agents

396 points · 269 comments · zzzeek

  1. elric · · focus · HN ↗
    A little over two decades ago, my then girlfriend was arrested for "writing malware" (which was not against the law at the time, and which was never released into the wild and never caused any damage). This set in motion a chain of events that effectively ruined her life.

    Fast forward to today, and we have multi billion dollar corporations pumping out malware at breakneck speeds, compromising various systems (including those of foreign governments), and no one is getting arrested. Instead we're gawking at the marvel of these systems and are playing word games about whether or not it's a rogue system. If anything, it's making people richer.

    Make it make sense.

    1. Avicebron · · focus · HN ↗
      It's making some people extremely rich. That's how it makes sense. Unless we can effect change through the government we are just along for the ride..
      1. zobzu · · focus · HN ↗
        the problem is that if it's not openai I then it's anthropic, if it's not anthropic then it's someone else. if it's not the US then it's China. if it's not China (lol as if) then it's someone else.

        underdogs also use that fact to push as much dirt and dislike as possible on the top dog, but just so that they can do the same anyway... and openai will just stop spending for IPO as we all know. then all execs will make 1bi or so. top guys a few hundred bi.

        it's disgusting but unavoidable.

        1. Shog9 · · focus · HN ↗
          That's not actually a problem, it's just good ol' pessimism of the devil-you-know / why bother locking the door when the next thief has a brick variety.

          The OP here isn't describing a hypothetical - folks are prosecuted for doing these sorts of things, just like folks occasionally get prosecuted for breaking & entering. If that goes away, we're left with the impossible task of creating unbreakable windows or - far more likely - we don't get to have nice things.

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