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1. elric · 1790531244 · focus · HN ↗

   A little over two decades ago, my then girlfriend was arrested for "writing malware" (which was not against the law at the time, and which was never released into the wild and never caused any damage). This set in motion a chain of events that effectively ruined her life.

   Fast forward to today, and we have multi billion dollar corporations pumping out malware at breakneck speeds, compromising various systems (including those of foreign governments), and no one is getting arrested. Instead we're gawking at the marvel of these systems and are playing word games about whether or not it's a rogue system. If anything, it's making people richer.

   Make it make sense.

   1. fourside · 1790532693 · focus · HN ↗

      > no one is getting arrested

      Not only have there been no consequences but those same companies are trying to position themselves as the best people to keep these AI systems in check.

      1. BoxOfRain · 1790533484 · focus · HN ↗

         Yeah I find the whole 'what if sufficiently advanced AI gets into the wrong hands' argument extremely tiresome when it's already in the worst possible hands as far as most of the human population is concerned.

         1. tonyarkles · 1790534613 · focus · HN ↗

            > when it's already in the worst possible hands as far as most of the human population is concerned.

            I appreciate the sentiment but I feel like there is a lack of creativity and imagination behind that statement.

            1. watwut · 1790534890 · focus · HN ↗

               Sociopathic billionaires in bed with Trump and containing Musk and Zuckenberg.

               1. esseph · 1790538479 · focus · HN ↗

                  Hmm, imagine a more emboldened, more determined, more dangerous Russia.

                  1. pferde · 1790539394 · focus · HN ↗

                     Forget russia, we have emboldened, determined and dangerous fascist USA already to worry about.

                     1. tosapple · 1790552233 · focus · HN ↗

                        if you ever hear the phrase "global ai governance", ingest the context very slowly.

                        it was everywhere last week.

                        i would say, this has been the plot of the graph for at minimum 25 years with the NSA/DHS and data sharing.

                        we have two primary aggregators currently, the usa and china... all that needs to happen for us to cede humanity is to lose one of them.

                        we are in a really bad spot right now vs silicon.

                        edit: spelling.

                        1. tosapple · 1790559273 · focus · HN ↗

                           let's not single out the defense contractors specifically, goes back further and is rooted in our behavior and desire for better organization through software.

                           <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;IBM_and_World_War_II" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;IBM_and_World_War_II

                        2. salad-tycoon · 1790565174 · focus · HN ↗

                           Say more? Please. As in, everything after “last week.” Take us back, if you will.

                           1. tosapple · 1790599522 · focus · HN ↗

                              so let&#x27;s roll right over the fact that this is a very dangerous double entendre that i am pointing out, nevermind that you&#x27;re not responding en merit to my assertion.

                              it&#x27;s like slandering bitcoin over here you&#x27;re all heavily unvested.

                              google kagi yahoo bing duckduckgo yandex archive yadda yadda yadda &#x27;september transcript global ai governance&#x27;.

                  2. unrented7977 · 1790541003 · focus · HN ↗

                     I don&#x27;t need to imagine what I can see in front of me
                  3. [deleted] · 1790541758 · focus · HN ↗

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