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There are no "rogue" AI agents

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  1. binarymax · · focus · HN ↗
    Exactly this. At worst, OpenAI knew about these behaviors and should be prosecuted under CFAA. At best, OpenAI is negligent and should be prosecuted for negligence.

    Luckily there are states and legal departments pursuing such action. So while OpenAI can deflect as much as it wants, that doesn't mean there aren't people who know better and will still do what is necessary to set precedent.

    1. solenoid0937 · · focus · HN ↗
      Angry people don't consider the second order effects of punishment.

      You realize how easy it is to just... not report this stuff, right? Be overly punitive and it will just end all proactive discovery and reporting which is net worse for AI safety.

      The only reason these companies scan for these issues is because they care about AI safety to some tiny degree. If fines become too punitive, they can and will just stop scanning for these incidents entirely.

      Models are becoming smarter and good at covering up their tracks, and so we will just end up with a huge blind spot for this kind of issue.

      1. Avicebron · · focus · HN ↗
        You're defending them by saying they will do worse things if they are held accountable?
        1. solenoid0937 · · focus · HN ↗
          No, I'm describing how the real world works.

          You (and others) are too busy seeing red, so you interpret this as a defense.

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