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PostmarketOS is rebranding as Nura

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denysvitali · 1790530210 · focus · HN ↗
FYI: they don't accept AI contributions.
From experience, AI is a 10x (or more) booster for getting a new device up and running - or porting mainline Linux to those super old (3.x) kernel forks.
I'll not contribute back anymore - this is a real bummer, but I guess they made their choice.
Context: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49704503#49745309">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49704503#49745309
<a href="https://docs.nura.eco/policies-and-processes/development/ai-policy.html" rel="nofollow">https://docs.nura.eco/policies-and-processes/development/ai-...
1. erelong · 1790532100 · focus · HN ↗
  Someone should do a fork that accepts ai assisted contributions, with a spin in the old name: postpostmarketos...
  1. yjftsjthsd-h · 1790542825 · focus · HN ↗
    A pro-AI fork would be nice for both "sides"; we could experimentally see whether it helps or hurts. In a few months-years, we should be able to see whether it's faster/buggier/better/worse.
2. 0c3ca83 · 1790532813 · focus · HN ↗
  I've seen a few people react this way, promising to never contribute when AI is banned; invariably, it turns out they hadn't been contributing upstream anyways.
  1. denysvitali · 1790533932 · focus · HN ↗
    <a href="https://gitlab.postmarketos.org/denysvitali" rel="nofollow">https://gitlab.postmarketos.org/denysvitali
    <a href="https://gitlab.com/sm8250-mainline/linux/-/merge_requests/8" rel="nofollow">https://gitlab.com/sm8250-mainline/linux/-/merge_requests/8
    <a href="https://wiki.nura.eco/wiki/Special:Contributions/Denvit" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.nura.eco/wiki/Special:Contributions/Denvit
    <a href="https://blog.denv.it/posts/pmos-k3s-cluster/" rel="nofollow">https://blog.denv.it/posts/pmos-k3s-cluster/
    kotaKat · 1790585003 · focus · HN ↗
    So… a handful of patches for a single phone from like a couple years ago?
    The contributions won’t be missed.
    denysvitali · 1790608061 · focus · HN ↗
    Can I see your contributions to the project?
  2. yjftsjthsd-h · 1790537832 · focus · HN ↗
    People are more inclined to contribute when it's easy than when it's hard. What of it?
    ZenoArrow · 1790548505 · focus · HN ↗
    Contributing may be easier, but stopping the project becoming a harder-to-debug mess is more of a priority.
3. hnews11 · 1790535883 · focus · HN ↗
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4. VCFundedGenYer · 1790549182 · focus · HN ↗
  Good for them. AI (especially the way you're describing it) is nothing but cancer.
5. rossy · 1790564967 · focus · HN ↗
  The policy you linked explains its reasoning pretty clearly. So you feel better about their decision, please re-read it with an open mind and a "why would a very ideologically-motivated copyleft free software project think this" attitude.
  1. snvzz · 1790571065 · focus · HN ↗
    They'll come around, eventually.
    Or get forked to irrelevance.
    rossy · 1790584002 · focus · HN ↗
    Can you give an example of a point in their rationale that they'll "come around" on, and why? I mentioned it because it looks solid to me.
    I don't think they'll be forked to irrelevance. Even if I put aside my skepticism of the quality or longevity of AI-assisted projects, I don't think there's a bigger audience for a Nura that's less principled on the issues they mentioned.
    snvzz · 1791028667 · focus · HN ↗
    To begin with, Nura is based on Linux, which is already contradictory.
    Linux uses LLMs. It cannot afford not to, when LLM can find and fix bugs at a rate no amount of human effort can match. This includes security-relevant issues.

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