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On caring for user data: NeoVim caused Vim undo files to be deleted

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  1. gavinhoward · · focus · HN ↗
    As a Neovim user, this stopped me dead with painful realization: I may have suffered the same thing but didn't realize it. There was a time when I could not undo something, and it was after a Neovim upgrade.

    Unlike Dr. Chisnall, I started my editor journey on Neovim, so it wasn't a transition that bit me. However, if the format of the persistent undo file is unstable, and Neovim just deletes it when it doesn't recognize the previous format, then it seems conceivable (to me) that an upgrade after changing the format would delete the file too.

    Ouch. This is making me think about getting off of Neovim. Yes, FOSS comes as-is, but if there's an alternative...

    1. antonkochubey · · focus · HN ↗
      Sorry for my ignorance, but what is the usefulness of undo persistence after a IDE restart? Don't you normally save your changes and finish a piece of work before exiting an DE?

      Edit: some great examples in the replies here, thanks! Perhaps I should start using it in editors that support it, never gave it a thought before.

      1. kelnos · · focus · HN ↗
        One silly example: sometimes I'll open up source or config file to make a quick, temporary change in order to test something. But then instead of ctrl+z backgrounding it, I'll accidentally quit vim. Then I start it back up to undo the change, and find that there's no undo history.

        I didn't know about persistent undo until seeing this posted here on HN, but now I've enabled it! Of course, turns out it's an unreliable feature on nvim... maybe I'll consider switching back to the original (for that and other reasons).

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