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Tells of a Slop UI

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  1. czhu12 · · focus · HN ↗
    At least some of these are just for lack of caring. I vibe coded this landing page recently <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tui2web.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tui2web.com&#x2F; and fought off a lot of the defaults the LLM came up with after a few hours of iteration. Feel free to roast it, I&#x27;m not really attached, but I thought it did a reasonably good job.
    1. mantesso · · focus · HN ↗
      it&#x27;s perfectly fine
    2. dawnerd · · focus · HN ↗
      Not bad but the section numbering gives it away now. Also something cloudflare has. I don’t know if I’d call that slop though. It’s really just the stuff people don’t care about and let whatever the llm comes up with ship.
    3. dreambuffer · · focus · HN ↗
      It&#x27;s fine, but if you spent hours telling it what not to do, at that point you are the one doing the designing.
    4. quirino · · focus · HN ↗
      I find this style of &quot;heavy dark borders&#x2F;shadows&quot; one of the ugliest recent trends on the web. It&#x27;s rarely done well.

      But otherwise the website looks pretty great. Vibe coded websites usually transmit the feeling of: &quot;nobody even bothered to look at this&quot;, and that&#x27;s not the case with yours at all.

      In your lists where elements are separated by horizontal lines, I would remove the horizontal line after the last element. That&#x27;s quite easy in CSS.

      1. czhu12 · · focus · HN ↗
        You could be right, I haven&#x27;t seen too many like this yet, but it did some out with this staggeringly fast. The style I&#x27;ve seen the most are the gradients + font changes mentioned in the article.
      2. voxelghost · · focus · HN ↗
        What&#x27;s interesting to me, is how it selected this heavy dark shadows brutalist style, which is a sort of stylized skeuomorphism , and then it decided to add a background different from page bg, breaking whatever illusion there was.
    5. Anon1096 · · focus · HN ↗
      This appears to be pretty close to the &quot;brutalist&quot; aesthetic mentioned in the article. Things like drop shadows on boxes are the opposite of the &quot;fingernail&quot; boxes and you very rarely saw them pre-AI. However I think your site looks fine and well crafted, nice work. (the article also said that this kind of design language is less grating)
      1. jdlshore · · focus · HN ↗
        Drop shadows on boxes were a common TUI element in the Norton Commander days.
      2. thiht · · focus · HN ↗
        It&#x27;s been a trend for years before AI... I remember the Balenciaga website being one of the first big names doing it in like... 2018?
        1. twobitshifter · · focus · HN ↗
          Right, AI had to get it from somewhere.
      3. czhu12 · · focus · HN ↗
        Yeah brutalist is exactly right, that is basically what I prompted for. I didn&#x27;t realize a bunch of other people were doing this. Actually the only inspiration I had for this was watching the movie (Brutalist) a few years back.
        1. alfirous · · focus · HN ↗
          Even before AI, brutalist style is not that popular compared to flat, glassmorphism, skeuomorphism etc. Two popular website that use brutalist that I remember is Gumroad and Figma.
    6. CSSer · · focus · HN ↗
      It looks nice. I wouldn’t roast it as much as admit that I can tell from some of the content phrasing that an LLM was used. The h1 feels cliche, for example. That comma doesn’t really need to be there.
    7. joe_the_user · · focus · HN ↗
      I actually had momentary startle reflex when I opened that page. I don&#x27;t know web design at all well but I know &quot;design elements are [edited] supposed to be invisible&quot;. My first impression is this is the opposite of that.
      1. thiht · · focus · HN ↗
        &gt; design is supposed to be invisible

        I don&#x27;t know who told you that but that&#x27;s a terrible take. Design can have personality. Design can convey emotions. Design can give you emotions and reactions by itself.

        Not everything needs to be bland like a user manual

        1. joe_the_user · · focus · HN ↗
          I edited above. I didn&#x27;t recall the statement correct - design elements are supposed invisible even design itself is noticeable as a feeling or personality or aesthetic. But I think in this case, what hits users is the elements - the huge text, reverse text and black box.
          1. owebmaster · · focus · HN ↗
            You might be thinking about &quot;Good design is as little design as possible&quot;, one of the 10 principles for good design by Dieter Rams.
            1. 8n4vidtmkvmk · · focus · HN ↗
              I don&#x27;t know what that&#x27;s really trying to say, but it sounds wrong. That&#x27;s how we end up with contextual interfaces that randomly shift around on a whim. Disappearing elements because some mysterious criteria has not been met. Atrocious for user discovery because the designer hid everything they thought the user didn&#x27;t need.
    8. WorldMaker · · focus · HN ↗
      All caps text is a roadblock for reading speed&#x2F;comprehension. Accessibility experts were finally convincing major company design standards to stop doing it when LLMs made it a default again [0] for headers and incidental text.

      Not to mention that all caps text is also generally associated with shouting and just feels rude to some readers.

      [0] Or more accurately trained on all the bad examples before experts started catching them and has stuck to the mistake.

    9. nswizzle31 · · focus · HN ↗
      This has the most obvious AI slop tell of all, in my opinion… SO MUCH TEXT. Just sections and sections of header + subheader + bullet list composed of header + subheader + paragraphs.

      I’m reading max 2 sentences on any landing page. Most people probably less. Having to scroll and scroll through walls of text is a clear sign of AI.

    10. demibabs · · focus · HN ↗
      I don’t know man, still looks exactly like a million vibe coded sites.

      Good aesthetic, just overused.

    11. shepherdjerred · · focus · HN ↗
      Claude gave me a similar aesthetic back in December: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;shepherdjerred&#x2F;monorepo&#x2F;tree&#x2F;main&#x2F;sandbox&#x2F;archive&#x2F;clauderon" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;shepherdjerred&#x2F;monorepo&#x2F;tree&#x2F;main&#x2F;sandbox...

      Though, as you can see, I didn&#x27;t really polish it

      It&#x27;s a bit funny that the projects are also very similar in goals

    12. frett · · focus · HN ↗
      I’m sorry but this is ugly in my eyes.

      Just goes to show how large the dynamic range is re. Taste. This is junk.

    13. sinker · · focus · HN ↗
      It&#x27;s not too readable. It would benefit from a columnated layout. The fold is also too long. It should be an introductory block.

      Overall, the &quot;rhythm&quot; is a bit off. The user should know what they&#x27;re seeing even before they see it, at least conceptually. The design&#x2F;layout doesn&#x27;t section off dense sections from skim material. Front pages in general should be built for skimming rather than deep consumption (scanning). Scanning should appear optional visually.

      There&#x27;s a lot of &quot;scan&quot; material, but users who visit your site mostly just want to know what they&#x27;re looking at - at least at first. So the deep material kinda just gets in the way of actual comprehension.

      Another critique: too much visual uniformity. Every major section looks the same (poor &quot;rhythm&quot;). This leads the eyes to glaze over much of the site.

      It sounds dumb, but our eyes don&#x27;t &quot;read&quot; a webpage, we &quot;see&#x2F;feel&quot; it instead. We see structure, layout, differences in colors, font sizes, patterns, bold headings, etc. We ignore the actual textual content. We only do actual reading when we&#x27;re hunting for something specific (eg, a specific nav link).

      The aesthetic itself is fine, but the layout and structure need work.

    14. fragmede · · focus · HN ↗
      Not to be a slopologist, but did you come up with the smartphone render? Cause I kinda love it, ngl

      It&#x27;s like, not obviously android or iOS and retro-y

    15. vrighter · · focus · HN ↗
      as soon as the page popped up, i got very heavy vibe coded vibes. You think you pushed back, you didn&#x27;t
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