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1. Izmaki · 1790508818 · focus · HN ↗

   "As a Language Model..." is one of the beginnings of a sentence I hate the most from LLMs and is the reason why I support free (as in "Liberty"), local models. I'm well aware that it is not a doctor and cannot replace a real doctor with multiple years of experience, I don't need to waste braincell activity on reading that it "as a Language Model" cannot give a precise diagnosis and that I should ask a real doctor - all I want to know is if I what I experience justifies either A) ER, B) 3-4 weeks scheduled doctors appointment or C) two paracetamol and a nap.

   I don't want "jailbroken" LLMs to commit crime. I want them to avoid having this vendor-specific "bloatware" all over the product I'm using.

   1. jrm4 · 1790511129 · focus · HN ↗

      Neither of your wants are realistic or sensible, at least in the way I think you're presenting them?

      The first is equivalent to "I don't want my operating system to be used to program viruses."

      The second is "I don't want vendors to include marketing in their product."

      1. Izmaki · 1790511358 · focus · HN ↗

         Pretend for a moment that Microsoft shipped Windows with a keylogger to make sure that you did not commit any form of crime. I don't want a keylogger on my PC even though I don't intend to commit crime.

         I also appreciate privacy even though I "have nothing to hide" - just because I "have nothing to hide" it doesn't mean I want companies scanning my camera roll.

         1. altmanaltman · 1790524411 · focus · HN ↗

            If Microsoft or any other company is actually shipping a keylogger, the idea is definitely not to prevent you from committing any crime, but more to spy on you. Why would they care if you break laws unless it affects them?

            Private companies do not surveil you with the intention of blackmailing or policing you (i.e., "you have something to hide!"), so it doesn't really apply here. By default, every user on a platform has something to hide, i.e. their data and usage and must be given the option to hide that or keep it anon.

            If you do have something to hide, Microsoft's Windows telemetry features aren't even your top security concern if you're smart.

            1. Izmaki · 1790526174 · focus · HN ↗

               The thing about examples is that we can play-pretend for a while and imagine that "if X, then Y" even though "X" is not true in the real world. :)

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