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1. cs702 · 1790513379 · focus · HN ↗

   The title is editorialized but conveys a key point made by the OP: Many execs at OpenAI knew that using the work of every author on earth without permission would be perceived as unethical, so execs were worried about this information getting attention in forums like HN. My understanding is that HN has millions of visitors who never log in, many of whom are highly educated individuals in positions of influence.

   1. mannanj · 1790518710 · focus · HN ↗

      I can't prove this, but as someone who has noticed recent changes, I believe this has been also achieving attention of the leadership at HN and moderation behavior/flags/system has changed.

      Certain opinions, topics, responses get flagged greater now; ones that disagree with a certain political standpoint or that criticize the intel community apparatus get flagged and censored now here. I used to see flagged content where the OP was removed only for bigotry and clearly abusive cases, now its for cases where people feel uncomfortable and strongly disagree.

      edit: recently for the first time, I started to feel this is no longer a safe/trusted place for the original hacker ethos it founded itself on.

      1. iririririr · 1790520096 · focus · HN ↗

         yc churns thousands of startups every round now. and 99% of them are nothing but a vertical frontend to openai et al.

         1. mannanj · 1790520531 · focus · HN ↗

            So do we have another forum for open discussions with bright people? not all the bright people want to build something merely for making someone rich at the expense of morals.

            1. iririririr · 1790535683 · focus · HN ↗

               not that I know of. would love to. maybe simply replicating the HN content at first but witg better moderation (still think /. moderation scheme is thr gold standard, and the reason it's good and effective is why its never replicated)

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