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Unsealed Briefs in Authors’ Case v. Microsoft/OpenAI

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  1. handoflixue · · focus · HN ↗
    It's wild how much weight "they're destroying jobs" has.

    I dare say that car manufacturers are aware of their impact on the horse and buggy industry. Calculator manufacturers wrecked the livelihood of mathematicians and accountants.

    Technology is in the business of putting people out of work, by inventing better ways of doing things. Or rather, any time you invent a better way of doing things, that's fundamentally going to disrupt all the businesses built around older technologies.

    1. exitb · · focus · HN ↗
      > I dare say that car manufacturers are aware of their impact on the horse and buggy industry

      Yes, but we're the horse in that scenario.

      1. ChickeNES · · focus · HN ↗
        > Yes, but we're the horse in that scenario.

        Good! End human labor.

        1. exitb · · focus · HN ↗
          What other leverage, apart from labor, do masses have against the large capital owners? You imagine they'll give us basic income, just so we can buy products from them? That makes no sense at all.
          1. ChickeNES · · focus · HN ↗
            Why do I need or care about leverage against "large capital owners"? I think you're just putting arguments I didn't make into my mouth.
            1. vrganj · · focus · HN ↗
              You need leverage because otherwise you're not getting fed, you're not getting a place to live, you're not getting electricity or medical care.

              He's not putting that in your mouth, that is just the reality of what you need leverage for.

              1. ChickeNES · · focus · HN ↗
                You keep promoting assumptions to facts by calling them "reality." Just because you seem hell bent to analyze everything through the lens of class power, doesn't mean that I do.
                1. vrganj · · focus · HN ↗
                  How you wish to analyze things doesn't change how they are.

                  Reality doesn't care about your wishes. Your unwillingness to consider the systemic mechanisms at play doesn't make them go away, the same way I child covering their eyes doesn't make them invisible.

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