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1. Skyy93 · 1790497828 · focus · HN ↗

   This is a lobby organisation using only the pieces and bits they like to push their own agenda.

   "sketchy russian website", how about using some more clear description like: A library for sharing books and articles that should be partly public domain because they were paid for by the public. Only some of the material is copyrighted by authors. However, some of their work is so old that it is not reprinted anyway.

   But of course such an explanation would not click.

   I also don't see a problem with statements about making people jobless. Imagine if every robotic or automation company advertised like this: Yeah, you'll buy tons of expensive robots and still rely on expensive labor from real people without any efficiency gains.

   1. quaintdev · 1790498695 · focus · HN ↗

      It's just sad that this is the top comment on Hacker News. Why are we giving free pass to these tech companies? Why are we trusting these CEOs when they have repeatedly broken laws? Remember Aaron Swartz and the fate he suffered? Why is big tech getting away with so much more?

      1. Skyy93 · 1790498935 · focus · HN ↗

         Then you misunderstood my point. I think copyright law should be significantly changed and the current system hurts us all.

         1. cisc · 1790500701 · focus · HN ↗

            > the current system hurts us all

            How? The current system enables the GPL. The GPL protects many open source projects.

            1. ChickeNES · 1790502108 · focus · HN ↗

               All the GPL does is restrict rights, unlike permissive licenses.

               1. cisc · 1790502202 · focus · HN ↗

                  So.. Linux is bad and we should all use BSDs?

                  Why has restrictive Linux succeeded far more than any BSD ever has?

                  1. ChickeNES · 1790503714 · focus · HN ↗

                     Why yes, I did order a new strawman, thanks so much!

                     1. cisc · 1790504876 · focus · HN ↗

                        What strawman? The GPL has been one of the drivers of the success of Linux and copyright is what makes that work. You still haven't articulated how that's restrictive.

                        1. ChickeNES · 1790505139 · focus · HN ↗

                           >> All the GPL does is restrict rights, unlike permissive licenses. > So.. Linux is bad and we should all use BSDs

                           I did not bring up Linux, much less called it bad, yet you made up a strawman and started attacking it. Good day.

                           1. cisc · 1790505350 · focus · HN ↗

                              We're talking about the GPL. Linux is a major project protected by the GPL.

                              A license in isolation isn't interesting. The practical results of projects under a license is interesting.

                              Linux is a very successful practical result under the GPL and copyright makes the GPL work. Without copyright the GPL would be unenforceable.

                              1. tpmoney · 1790559992 · focus · HN ↗

                                 > Without copyright the GPL would be unenforceable.

                                 Without copyright, the GPL would be unnecessary.

                                 1. cisc · 1790591290 · focus · HN ↗

                                    Without copyright the little guys would constantly be screwed over by the big guys.

                                    It really is one of those "without law you cannot have freedom" things.

                  2. Macha · 1790512823 · focus · HN ↗

                     BSD was under a cloud of a lawsuit at the early stages of corporate adoption of open source operating systems and by the time that was resolved network effects had given Linux too much of a lead.

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