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Unsealed Briefs in Authors’ Case v. Microsoft/OpenAI

631 points · 623 comments · papergirl

  1. Skyy93 · · focus · HN ↗
    This is a lobby organisation using only the pieces and bits they like to push their own agenda.

    "sketchy russian website", how about using some more clear description like: A library for sharing books and articles that should be partly public domain because they were paid for by the public. Only some of the material is copyrighted by authors. However, some of their work is so old that it is not reprinted anyway.

    But of course such an explanation would not click.

    I also don't see a problem with statements about making people jobless. Imagine if every robotic or automation company advertised like this: Yeah, you'll buy tons of expensive robots and still rely on expensive labor from real people without any efficiency gains.

    1. trompetenaccoun · · focus · HN ↗
      It can be a bit confusing due to the terrible style of the article (ironic given the source) but it seems the "sketchy russian website" part is a direct quote by Anthropic's Sam McCandlish. And apparently Dario Amodei referred to it as sketchy as well.

      I find the brazenness of saying this while running what's arguably the largest copyright theft operation in human history astonishing. If libgen is "sketchy", then what is OpenAI?

      1. TeMPOraL · · focus · HN ↗
        They didn't believe it was sketchy. They were just worried that the commentariat on HN will frame it in a dumb, manipulative way like that.

        Judging by how AI threads look like for the past year, they were absolutely right to be worried.

        > largest copyright theft operation in human history

        In fact, you're doing exactly that right here.

        1. probably_wrong · · focus · HN ↗
          The comment you're replying to is citing almost verbatim [1] Microsoft’s director of Applied Science, Brent Hecht, who called OpenAI's data collection practices "the largest theft of labor in human history" in an internal memo.

          [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;17&#x2F;microsoft-exec-called-ai-scraping-the-largest-theft-of-labor-in-human-history-new-unredacted-filings-reveal&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;17&#x2F;microsoft-exec-called-ai-s...

          1. qarl · · focus · HN ↗
            Yes, one man at Microsoft agrees with you.
          2. TeMPOraL · · focus · HN ↗
            It&#x27;s not citing, it&#x27;s regurgitating, like a stochastic parrot.
            1. throworangeaway · · focus · HN ↗
              It is citing directly from unsealed court document. For an Opinion Haver training here all day, whose only other contribution to the world was animated Nyan Cat in Emacs status bar, you have poor comprehension skills.
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