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Unsealed Briefs in Authors’ Case v. Microsoft/OpenAI

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  1. handoflixue · · focus · HN ↗
    It's wild how much weight "they're destroying jobs" has.

    I dare say that car manufacturers are aware of their impact on the horse and buggy industry. Calculator manufacturers wrecked the livelihood of mathematicians and accountants.

    Technology is in the business of putting people out of work, by inventing better ways of doing things. Or rather, any time you invent a better way of doing things, that's fundamentally going to disrupt all the businesses built around older technologies.

    1. cisc · · focus · HN ↗
      > Technology is in the business of putting people out of work, by inventing better ways of doing things

      Why is book piracy a better way of doing things?

      1. Skyy93 · · focus · HN ↗
        >Why is book piracy a better way of doing things?

        You twist the argument. Your argument would hold if AI's only use would be to generate booksverbatim it was already trained on. Which is certaintly not the case and huge efforts were made to circumvent this kind of usage.

        1. cisc · · focus · HN ↗
          What's twisted? They pirated books to train their models.

          Clearly these books had value to AI companies but they were too weak and too dishonest to pay for that value. That's not impressive.

      2. 468854259853 · · focus · HN ↗

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      3. fragmede · · focus · HN ↗
        Because you want as many people as possible to be exposed to your ideas, to the point that Christianity used to fund armies to go to other places so they could force the teachings of Jesus Christ upon them. If your thoughts aren't at least as good as that, why are you wasting eink on them?
      4. Jtarii · · focus · HN ↗
        That is a pretty irrelevant point considering they could have just bought all the books and we would still be in the same situation.

        Obviously the authors should sue them to bankruptcy though.

        1. literalAardvark · · focus · HN ↗
          One of the commonly mentioned annoyances of copyright is that they really couldn't have bought all the books.

          Getting sued for fair value is the easier way out. Especially after a few billion in funding.

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