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Unsealed Briefs in Authors’ Case v. Microsoft/OpenAI

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  1. papergirl · · focus · HN ↗
    Newly released court filings quote an OpenAI researcher saying: “I was just worried about optics - i.e. 'openai uses copyrighted data from sketchy russian website’ showing up on HN would be unfortunate."

    That's just one of several interesting quotes that have surfaced in documents from the Authors Guild's lawsuit against OpenAI.

    1. locknitpicker · · focus · HN ↗
      > Newly released court filings quote an OpenAI researcher saying: “I was just worried about optics (...)"

      As a side-note, most orgs already cover the need to STFU in their training material for new hires, particularly how personal comments should not and cannot represent the company. I'm sure this lawsuit will be explicitly mentioned in upcoming versions of this sort training material in multiple orgs.

      1. wslack · · focus · HN ↗
        Legal incentives against better internal communication/coordination create so much inefficiency. The legal system should focus on outcomes more than internal comms.
        1. LPisGood · · focus · HN ↗
          Intent is very important for many practical purposes.
        2. shimman · · focus · HN ↗
          Yeah and this is how they do that, intent matters and if this is the culture of the company then it makes it more heinous.
        3. intended · · focus · HN ↗
          I really doubt this is surprising to you.

          All checks cause friction. The trade off in velocity is when you get to see the shit hit the fan in someone else’s firm.

          Or for openAI, when the HN comments cover their daily work.

      2. lukewarm707 · · focus · HN ↗
        i am of the belief that papering over a fundamental lack of integrity and ethics will usually fail to conceal it. it is ineffective.

        lack of ethics and integrity is of course part of the design of a capitalist economy.

        you can't change the economy as an individual but i like this quote: "Do the right thing for the right reasons, at the right time with the right people, and you'll have no regrets for the rest of your lives."

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