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323 points · 116 comments · shenli3514

  1. yipinwong · · focus · HN ↗
    The topic isn't as interesting as how 131 authors communicated to get this out.
    1. embedding-shape · · focus · HN ↗
      Is it possible they're doing a research lab "socialism style" and everyone gets equal credit for just being a part of the lab, regardless of actual input into the specific papers? If they're innovating in computer, maybe they're not so afraid of innovating in social/academic structures as well?
      1. tonmoy · · focus · HN ↗
        This is common practice in Biology labs in the west I think
        1. moritzwarhier · · focus · HN ↗
          Maybe there are even reasonable justifications for it, instead of yelling about "socialism".
          1. embedding-shape · · focus · HN ↗
            Sorry, didn't mean it like "yelling", I'm quite a fan of socialism and don't see it as any negative. I didn't think anything in my comment was negative.
            1. nextaccountic · · focus · HN ↗
              It's negative in the sense it suggest some authors didn't contribute (or contribute little0 to the research, and were perhaps just warm bodies that happened to be present at a certain location
              1. embedding-shape · · focus · HN ↗
                I don't see my comment suggesting that at all? Personally I like the approach, and felt it was a positive approach when I made my comment, apparently it reads very differently than that.
                1. moritzwarhier · · focus · HN ↗
                  I understand your objection, and would like to retract my reading of your comment, it was sloppy.

                  This doesn't mean anything partisan to me, but I mentally auto-classified what you said as a partisan argument, and reacted in a knee-jerk way. I'm happy that the comment you are responding to still made a best-faith argument to explore possible implications of what I said, and what you said.

                  But I want to draw a sharp line of what I want to discuss here, and failed at doing that. Open discussion of economy and politics is interesting to me. I don't consider myself a communist or socialist, neither a fierce "anti-leftist".

                  But my comment did invite exactly this polarization, and I'm thankful that despite of it, there was still a constructive follow-up comment.

                  Sorry for the blunder on my part: I simply skimmed your comment while distracted, instead of reading it, then reacted reflexively.

                  I'd myself be confused by the accusation I made ("yelling about socialism") would it have been thrown at me when simply discussing some geopolitical/economy topic.

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