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Japan moves to tighten rules for foreigners

206 points · 623 comments · mikhael

  1. autoexec · · focus · HN ↗
    Requiring proficiency in the language is reasonable, but requiring everyone to be richer than the average member of the population and have enough money banked to live off of for 30 years seems insane. That goes well beyond simply making sure that people are able to care for themselves.
    1. reliabilityguy · · focus · HN ↗
      > That goes well beyond simply making sure that people are able to care for themselves.

      I am not sure in understand the issue, if Japanese want this, what’s the problem?

      1. kurthr · · focus · HN ↗
        Something must be done, this is something, we must do it!

        Just because something can be done doesn't make it good for the society. Japan has a shrinking population and is currently dependent on immigrants for low wage work. Plenty of actions can make the current problem worse and have unintended consequences. Whether they happen or not is a political question, not a moral one.

        Who determined "what they want?" Did you want your government to attack Iran? Are you responsible for it? Why not?

        1. zug_zug · · focus · HN ↗
          That's their problem to solve however they want, if they want. The population shrinking by some large percentage doesn't seem to be inherently bad to me, and probably is good.

          It's so laughable to me when people say "BUT THE SHAREHOLDER VALUE!" when we talk about things like the important life trends of millions of people.

          1. turkey99 · · focus · HN ↗
            For Japan, shrinking population will mean an aging population with no one to care for them.
            1. mikem170 · · focus · HN ↗
              A few generations ago they were enslaving people [0]. This is what racism can lead to. Maintaining their heritage, their way of life, some would say.

              Hopefully their population decline doesn't hit them too hard. But that, and their lack natural of resources, could lead to bad things. Fascists and their ilk thrive in such situations.

              [0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Slavery_in_Japan#World_War_II" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Slavery_in_Japan#World_War_II

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