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Japan moves to tighten rules for foreigners

206 points · 623 comments · mikhael

  1. flumpcakes · · focus · HN ↗
    Hot take: I think immigration and multiculturalism is going to be the the biggest and the defining issue of this century. The history books will have "AI" and climate change in the margins as 'exacerbating factors'. We've started to see it in the US, and we're beginning to see the start to it in the EU. Japan--rightly or wrongly--might be averting a future disaster here. Japan is lucky in that they are still a very homogeneous society, and also unlucky in that they are ahead of the curve in population decline. I think the western world is in for a bad time over the next 50 years.
    1. retinaros · · focus · HN ↗
      There are Ceuta like events of a smaller scale every day at every border of western europe. Dont need to wait 50 years. Not a single european voted for this. French people also voted no to a european economy but those who seized power didnt care
    2. raziel2701 · · focus · HN ↗
      What disaster is Japan averting?
      1. jeremycarter · · focus · HN ↗
        "they took our jobs!"
        1. b0rtb0rt · · focus · HN ↗
          more like “they didn’t follow the rules and destroyed our nice society and dumped garbage everywhere”
          1. russelg · · focus · HN ↗
            We're talking about people who have gone to great lengths to set up their life in Japan, doing everything correctly. Not tourists.
      2. flumpcakes · · focus · HN ↗
        I don't think there's a limit to the animosity people feel (rightly or wrongly - what's "correct" has no bearing on people's feelings) and we will end up in a place where previously unthinkable force or actions are now permissible due to nasty politics. The US is getting a small taste of that now.

        I don't think it takes much imagination to connect the dots... it wasn't that long ago in European history where people were systematically eradicated by the millions.

      3. poulpy123 · · focus · HN ↗
        The current news in the middle east are showing what happens when unregulated immigration happens without assimilation
      4. throwawayfifo · · focus · HN ↗
        Demographic suicide.
    3. didibus · · focus · HN ↗
      Isn't that the story of the US since birth? It seems immigration is just always a hot topic, everyone always thinks they can just pull up the latter behind them as to not lose what they have to others. I don't feel anything is different now.
    4. cedws · · focus · HN ↗
      I don’t this can even be debated. Immigration is the number one discussed issue in rich countries and immigration policy is causing massive swings in elections.
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