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1. autoexec · 1790448745 · focus · HN ↗

   Requiring proficiency in the language is reasonable, but requiring everyone to be richer than the average member of the population and have enough money banked to live off of for 30 years seems insane. That goes well beyond simply making sure that people are able to care for themselves.

   1. reliabilityguy · 1790449369 · focus · HN ↗

      > That goes well beyond simply making sure that people are able to care for themselves.

      I am not sure in understand the issue, if Japanese want this, what’s the problem?

      1. autoexec · 1790449910 · focus · HN ↗

         Just because some people want something that doesn't suddenly make it reasonable or wise. In this case it's a problem for many already successful people living in Japan currently who will be forced to leave. It's also a problem for Japanese companies who have hired those people or who want to attract foreign talent to positions that pay well, but don't typically leave someone fabulously wealthy compared to most of the people living around them. It's also a problem because the policy is coming in at a time of increased xenophobia and overt racism and while this policy is likely to reduce the total number of foreigners living in Japan, it's unlikely to address the problems people have with the foreigners who will remain, and it could actually make those problems worse.

         1. zulux · 1790452811 · focus · HN ↗

            It's their country. They can do what they want as long as they don't start another war.

            1. autoexec · 1790453846 · focus · HN ↗

               I don't think anyone plans on trying to step in and intervene, but I hope people also don't shy from talking about how foolish this move is, the problems it won't solve, the problems it's likely to cause, and the people whose lives are being negatively impacted by it.

               1. ihsw · 1790459458 · focus · HN ↗

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               2. rayiner · 1790469634 · focus · HN ↗

                  Why don't you trust the Japanese to know wha they're doing when it comes to their own society? After all, they're the ones who built an amazing country everyone wants to visit!

                  1. drunner · 1790470606 · focus · HN ↗

                     Because the yen is weak is a big reason why visiting is appealing. Its also a big reason why their population is dwindling.

                     The govt is just trying to point fingers at foreigners to hide their weakness. I think recently they made a big deal about foreign owned real estate then quickly forgot about that talking point when their own study showed it equated to something like .05% of their total housing.

                     1. rayiner · 1790471682 · focus · HN ↗

                        That’s not the point I’m making. Japan is clearly a wonderful society, seeing as how many people want to visit and immigrate. Why not trust the people who built that society that they know what they’re doing?

                        1. Scharkenberg · 1790495621 · focus · HN ↗

                           > Japan is clearly a wonderful society

                           I don't think so.

                           > seeing as how many people want to visit and immigrate.

                           That's true for Qatar and UAE too. Wonderful societies.

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            2. free_bip · 1790461194 · focus · HN ↗

               If you think this is true then you simply lack the creativity to understand how bad domestic laws can get.
            3. Tiktaalik · 1790479448 · focus · HN ↗

               you're on a discussion forum. The point is to discuss things. Why are you being such a scold about what we're allowed to talk about.
         2. duhher4 · 1790461310 · focus · HN ↗

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            1. rustystump · 1790462239 · focus · HN ↗

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