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Japan moves to tighten rules for foreigners

206 points · 623 comments · mikhael

  1. autoexec · · focus · HN ↗
    Requiring proficiency in the language is reasonable, but requiring everyone to be richer than the average member of the population and have enough money banked to live off of for 30 years seems insane. That goes well beyond simply making sure that people are able to care for themselves.
    1. SV_BubbleTime · · focus · HN ↗

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      1. autoexec · · focus · HN ↗
        If the goal is to preserve their culture I doubt that insisting that everyone who moves there have "fuck you" money is going to help as much as they think it will. At least some percentage of those who meet that bar will be people who are selfish and very accustomed to just doing whatever they want. The more money people have, the greater their ability to reshape the environment and culture around them to suit their individual preferences. Rich people aren't moving to remote villages in bumblefuku nowhere either. Having a bunch of rich foreigners concentrated in the major (and culturally influential) cities will only make it worse.
        1. happytoexplain · · focus · HN ↗
          50th percentile + 30 years subsistence is not "fuck you" money, but regardless, income has multiple effects, not only cultural. They don't want to be financially supporting foreigners, of course.
          1. Espressosaurus · · focus · HN ↗
            30 years of money banked is quite a bit no matter which way you slice it.
            1. happytoexplain · · focus · HN ↗
              "Quite a bit", yes, I agree with that location for the goalposts.
          2. dgellow · · focus · HN ↗
            It’s pretty much the definition of fuck you money
          3. bigstrat2003 · · focus · HN ↗
            30 years of living expenses banked is absolutely "fuck you" money. 50th percentile income is not.
          4. khazhoux · · focus · HN ↗
            Having enough money to not lift a finger until the year 2056 is absolutely in the "fuck you" zone.
            1. happytoexplain · · focus · HN ↗
              That's fine, it's just a semantic argument about how people use the term, which doesn't affect my actual assertion, which is that it's not an unreasonable bar.
          5. anigbrowl · · focus · HN ↗
            A rough calculation suggests the floor for '30 years subsistence' is about ¥120m/$800k, a sum that's pretty much impossible to accumulate at the 50th percentile of wages.
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