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1. hingler36 · 1790445142 · focus · HN ↗

   I'm interested in reading more information as it comes out, but a lot of the comments claiming it's "just vibrations" are being a bit reductionist. These devices are controlled by complex algorithms, and they take a lot of time and money to create. Why shouldn't this company enjoy the same IP protections that Apple enjoys on their work?

   1. 93po · 1790445896 · focus · HN ↗

      My issue with stuff like this is their work is not worth $6 billion dollars. Yes it takes time to develop this stuff but it isn't ground-breaking work and isn't especially novel. A room of experienced engineers, given the same constraints, would likely be able to come to the same design conclusions without much time or expense. Patents in general have this problem. A lot of it is a race to patent as much obvious and fringe-not-immediately-useful-today stuff as possible and it unfortunately works a lot of the time.

      1. double0jimb0 · 1790450142 · focus · HN ↗

         Such a ridiculous take. Of course a room full of engineers can probably come up with a solution.

         But what got those engineers in the same room in the first place?

         What got them in the same room in the first place was them being the only group of people (most likely) working on a specific piece of enabling technology that they believed would be rewarded by the market and adoption AND they needed to make a living in the mean time (getting paid to do that work.)

         A patent is the best thing we’ve collectively come up with to allow said group / company to invest the time and money in advance to making that technology and wants to risk/trade 20 future years to collect profit on the work they do now.

         If you don’t like the game, get better at it.

         1. malwrar · 1790451884 · focus · HN ↗

            > But what got those engineers in the same room in the first place?

            The interest in a shared problem and the passion to solve it?

            > A patent is the best thing we’ve collectively come up with

            I think that’s a bold claim in the face of the numerous contributions from e.g. universities, open source communities, single-person projects, etc that have pushed the world forward. We simply do not know a world free of the oppression of patents, the institution sustains itself.

            > If you don’t like the game, get better at it.

            I don’t think people will be playing this game much longer in the face of generative AI, unless ofc the ruling classes succeed in locking down access to that tech, gobally.

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