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Plunging test scores are a slow-moving catastrophe

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  1. Animats · · focus · HN ↗
    Plunging physical fitness test scores are even worse.[1] "Fat people don't make good soldiers … they get themselves or others hurt or killed." The US military says 31% of US youth are too fat to serve. 77% are not qualified for one or more reasons.[2]

    Only 12% of American male youth who are qualified for the military are not in college.

    Think about that. About 2/3 of American male youth are not good enough for either college or the military. That's a high reject rate.

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.military.com&#x2F;daily-news&#x2F;2018&#x2F;10&#x2F;10&#x2F;one-third-youths-too-obese-military-service-study-finds.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.military.com&#x2F;daily-news&#x2F;2018&#x2F;10&#x2F;10&#x2F;one-third-you...

    [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.military.com&#x2F;daily-news&#x2F;2022&#x2F;09&#x2F;28&#x2F;new-pentagon-study-shows-77-of-young-americans-are-ineligible-military-service.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.military.com&#x2F;daily-news&#x2F;2022&#x2F;09&#x2F;28&#x2F;new-pentagon-...

    1. puzzledobserver · · focus · HN ↗
      Did you mean: &gt; Only 12% of American male youth who are __not__ qualified for the military __are__ in college?

      Without reading your citations, your argument threw me for a loop.

      1. pessimizer · · focus · HN ↗
        I don&#x27;t think so. I think what was meant was what was literally said: that 88% of youth qualified for the military are in college.

        66% of youth are not qualified for the military or college, leaving a remainder of 34% that are qualified for the military, college, or both.

        X% of youth qualified for college but not the military (qualified for college here meaning attending college, I think.), leaving (34-X)%.

        Of those, 88% attend college .88(34-X)%,

        leaving .12(34-X)% eligible for recruitment. Which ends up a successful recruiting number like 63.5K, which is from one of the references.

        I could be wrong, but it could make sense.

        But also, 2&#x2F;3rds of 34% also leaves a remainder of about 12% (which is a bit coincidental), so maybe what was meant to be said was that only 12% of (all American youth) are (qualified) and not (in college), rather than only 12% of (the qualified) are not (in college.)

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