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Plunging test scores are a slow-moving catastrophe

207 points · 414 comments · vinni2

  1. dumberquestions · · focus · HN ↗
    The drop from 2018 to 2022 is as big as the one from 2022 to 2026, so it's not obvious whether AI had a role at all, although it's highly plausible.

    I suspect the bigger culprit is the optimized monetization of human attention, because pre-algorithmic social media doesn't seem to be as destructive. The fact that science wasn't as affected as math and reading (both of which rely more on attention/practice than rote memorization) somewhat supports this.

    1. binlog · · focus · HN ↗
      Hmm, did anything happen in 2020 to disrupt the entire education system?
      1. ameminator · · focus · HN ↗
        But if the drop between 2018 and 2022 was AS LARGE as the drop between 2022 and 2026, this implies that something happened that was as large as a global pandemic for students' education happened in the last four years. I believe the OP is implying this could have been AI. However, something else could be happening, such as use of phones and other devices or another fundamental problem in the education system.
        1. binlog · · focus · HN ↗
          - Students who entered the education system in the COVID years are still taking tests today. They didn’t automatically relearn everything.

          - Schools have not gone back to pre-COVID practices. Online courses, use of digital tools, fewer tests, dropping SAT/ACT requirements, and most of all budget cuts in school districts – all are still happening today.

          1. readthenotes1 · · focus · HN ↗
            You mentioned budget cuts and yet if I remember the data there is almost no correlation between school budget and results.

            On the other hand, you have the Mississippi miracle, achieved at a budget increase of $35 per student, and a total budget of around $12k per student-- a far cry from the more recent example of education failure in New York City at $26k/student (elementary) and $32k/student (middle school)

            1. piloto_ciego · · focus · HN ↗
              you are correct, but budget cuts are happening nevertheless and it's being used to justify laying off teachers (while admin staff stay employed... strange?)
            2. robotresearcher · · focus · HN ↗
              If you normalize those numbers for the cost of operating in Mississippi vs New York City, the gap is way smaller.

              The chief costs for schools are salaries and premises, both of which are highly location dependent.

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