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Plunging test scores are a slow-moving catastrophe

207 points · 414 comments · vinni2

  1. dumberquestions · · focus · HN ↗
    The drop from 2018 to 2022 is as big as the one from 2022 to 2026, so it's not obvious whether AI had a role at all, although it's highly plausible.

    I suspect the bigger culprit is the optimized monetization of human attention, because pre-algorithmic social media doesn't seem to be as destructive. The fact that science wasn't as affected as math and reading (both of which rely more on attention/practice than rote memorization) somewhat supports this.

    1. jimbob45 · · focus · HN ↗
      WolframAlpha was able to do advanced calculus in 2009 fully for free. LLMs shouldn’t have affected math performance at all because the tools were already readily available for a decade at that point.
      1. xdavidliu · · focus · HN ↗
        totally false equivalency. wolfram alpha cannot one shot word problems for one, and there are many many more.
        1. jimbob45 · · focus · HN ↗
          It got you 90% of the way there once you’d translated the problem. I can’t imagine LLMs ultimately saved more time per problem than WA did.
          1. bdangubic · · focus · HN ↗
            I would bet that plot of WA users vs AI users, same age groups etc would look pretty funny as comparison
      2. pixl97 · · focus · HN ↗
        Wolfram is a tool, and LLM even without a harness is much closer to an agent.
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