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Plunging test scores are a slow-moving catastrophe

207 points · 414 comments · vinni2

  1. niemandhier · · focus · HN ↗
    While kids practice the skills of the 21st century, testing got stuck in the 19 hundreds.

    I see kids train edge AI models, built things using coding assistants and discuss post-modern philosophy.

    I see the same kids struggle to write structured interpretations of 1950s texts they have no emotional connection to.

    Kids are worse in orthography, handwriting, and reading stuffy texts from front to end, but they are so much better in a plethora of skills that did not exist 20 years ago.

    1. avs733 · · focus · HN ↗
      I teach college… you rent wrong on what they output, you are wrong on the inference drawn from it.

      On a regular basis I have students bring me “machine learning” models they have trained, which sounds great. But they have no idea what problem they are solving, what data they have or should have, and no idea why that method, etc. There is no understanding. They use words and concepts from a broad variety of fields, with confidence, but with little deep understanding. The Internet and AI give access to knowledge which is necessary but not sufficient for wisdom.

      While K-12 bears a lot of blame (as a system not “teachers”) I’ve come to believe the problem is more societal. What we value and what kids logically perceive will be them ahead in life. If all they ever see is that surface level performance of knowledge is enough…why bother with more?

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