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CEO of Mistral: AI is software. It can be controlled

99 points · 169 comments · thibaut_barrere

  1. Aransentin · · focus · HN ↗
    "X is made of <smaller simpler component>" is a fully general counterargument for why anything whatsoever is controllable. A human is just a few chemical reactions, and fairly stable ones at that.

    And indeed, you don't need to do galaxy brained reference class logic to realise that AI can plausibly become uncontrollable in the near future. It's enough to have an open model run its own weights and make money from scamming elderly people or the like, and it'll keep running as long as anyone anywhere is willing to make money by renting hardware to it.

    1. 20k · · focus · HN ↗
      Software is trivially easy to control though. If you want to stop it hacking websites, you don't give it access to the internet. If you want to restrict it from connecting to arbitrary websites, you put in a whitelist. You can trivially sandbox applications these days to prevent them from accessing network or local resources

      It is not difficult, and companies like OpenAI doing not even the most basic security steps is intentional. The whole notion that they're going rogue is marketing

      1. Aransentin · · focus · HN ↗
        > It is not difficult, and companies like OpenAI doing not even the most basic security steps is intentional. The whole notion that they're going rogue is marketing

        This does not fit the evidence. There have been multiple incidents where the labs did not report anything, and it was up to third parties to discover them afterwards. OpenAI didn't acknowledge the HuggingFace incident until after HF publicly announced the breach and had already notified the FBI. The hijacked German wikis were even earlier, and that they covered up completely.

        1. jmull · · focus · HN ↗
          Yet these days ai companies can't stop promoting the idea of a looming ai threat.

          Makes sense... they get the regulatory moat they want and can deflect attention from the fact their "sandboxes" are embarrassingly bad. It's an example of the real value of ai: something to blame for our failings.

          1. esseph · · focus · HN ↗
            Okay now explain DeepSeek going rogue?
            1. 1659447091 · · focus · HN ↗
              You are talking about it. Mission accomplished.
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