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CEO of Mistral: AI is software. It can be controlled

99 points · 169 comments · thibaut_barrere

  1. whaaswijk · · focus · HN ↗
    Unfortunately the article is behind a paywall. I would have been interested to see if he makes any substantial arguments. I don't see any reason to believe that AI being software entails that it can be controlled. Moreover, even if a measure of control is possible, giving that control to a handful of oligarchs seems undesirable.
    1. andsoitis · · focus · HN ↗
      > giving that control to a handful of oligarchs seems undesirable.

      You think Gemini, Claude, ChatGPT are controlled by oligarchs?

      In other words, that Alphabet, Anthropic, and OpenAI are run / owned by oligarchs?

      People like Amodei and Altman are oligarchs?

      1. jyounker · · focus · HN ↗
        Cambridge Dictionary: Oligarch - One of a small group of powerful people who control a country or an industry.

        And here&#x27;s a frequently quoted study showing that the US is much closer to an oligopoly than pluralistic democracy: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;piketty.pse.ens.fr&#x2F;files&#x2F;GilensPage2014.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;piketty.pse.ens.fr&#x2F;files&#x2F;GilensPage2014.pdf

        So, the definition and evidence say, yes.

        1. andsoitis · · focus · HN ↗
          In what way do Amodei or Altman control a country or an industry?
          1. jcranmer · · focus · HN ↗
            For starters, the entire framing of AI in public discourse is based on the way that Amodei and Altman want them to be framed, with little consideration given to alternative ways of framing the current and prospective future capabilities of AI.
            1. andsoitis · · focus · HN ↗
              &gt; For starters, the entire framing of AI in public discourse is based on the way that Amodei and Altman want them to be framed, with little consideration given to alternative ways of framing the current and prospective future capabilities of AI.

              Assuming that is a threshold that means they are oligarchs (which seems like a huge stretch), I thought I&#x27;m seeing vigorous discourse and debate on this. Not just a single POV. You don&#x27;t?

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