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  1. pelagicAustral · · focus · HN ↗
    I know this is a stupid question even before I ask it, but is there any chance at this point of seeing something out of the scope of Apple and Google for mobile?? Will the bank apps ever allow people out of these two players
    1. anal_reactor · · focus · HN ↗
      Motorola is planning to release phones with GrapheneOS. So far only expensive models have been confirmed, but I assume cheapos should follow.

      Of course they're not doing this out of good heart. My theory is that China wants to have a popular smartphone that is completely independent from US companies. But hey, once upon a time Google were "the good guys" too, so enjoy the party while it lasts.

      An interesting point is that it's important to have powerful China around because they're a capitalist competition to the US.

      1. philipallstar · · focus · HN ↗
        > An interesting point is that it's important to have powerful China around because they're a capitalist competition to the US.

        Semi-capitalist at best. They're good for cloning things invented in the West, but the problem is that that is much cheaper than inventing, so things get commoditised and the places that can do expensive R&D have to find other ways to make money all the time.

        1. anal_reactor · · focus · HN ↗
          1. That's not true. More and more segments of technology are being dominated by China. China sells lots and lots of everyday objects that are wholly desgined in China, with quality beating western products. They're just small improvements over existing designs of relatively simple things, so nothing makes the headlines.

          2. Lots of Chinese technology never leaves China for political reasons, rather than economic/technology ones.

          3. If you want to buy a semi-professional machine as an advanced hobbyist, often your only option is China.

          4. Apple is wildly known for taking existing designs and improving on them. Why is it good for Apple to do that, but bad for China to do that?

          1. philipallstar · · focus · HN ↗
            > Apple is wildly known for taking existing designs and improving on them. Why is it good for Apple to do that, but bad for China to do that?

            I'm not saying that's the case.

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